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Post by bobroberts on Jul 28, 2020 8:48:41 GMT -5
Okay, given both canidates age, maybe we should call it the slow walk to the white house...
I'm going to use the 2016 electoral college map as a starting point, where Trump got 306 votes compared to Hillary's 232. Keep in mind it takes 270 to win.
I don't foresee Trump flipping any state that Hillary won, so those 232 votes are safe for Biden.
However Biden has a lot of states he can flip. Outside of Ohio, he has leads in all swing states and holds double digit leads in two states that Trump won in 2016. Michigan 16 votes and Arizona 11 votes.
We're less than 100 days away from the election, so it's almost impossible for Trump to make up that much ground. So with those 27 votes shifting from Trump to Biden we're now looking at a count of Trump 279 and Biden 259.
So Biden just needs to flip 1 more state that Trump took in 2016, and there's a lot of chances out there...
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Post by searay on Jul 28, 2020 8:57:30 GMT -5
I don't see a path for Trump to win. It'll be Biden for the next four yrs but we're still screwed. Stock market will not like this
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Post by bobroberts on Jul 28, 2020 10:10:57 GMT -5
I don't see a path for Trump to win. It'll be Biden for the next four yrs but we're still screwed. Stock market will not like this Well there may be a loophole in the law that Trump could exploit, and I wouldn't put it passed him. Let me explain... Biden wins by less than 45 electoral votes spread across several purple states with pro Trump Governors. Trump immediately points at THOSE states — the ones with Trump governors — as the ones that are “RIGGED!” After all, Trump already told his supporters this would happen, he KNEW IT!! Trump sues in those states in state court and in federal court to enjoin those states “until the real winner can be sorted out.” The states with Trump governors never really get around to finalizing the winner — it’s just too complex, like Florida in 2000, only there is “no winner.” They can’t pull off a “Trump victory,” they just can’t “ensure a Biden win.” Thus, those states refuse to send delegates to vote in the electoral college. The United States Supreme Court rules only that the Electoral college vote on December 14, 2020, the electoral college votes. With four states missing neither candidate gets 270 votes. By the constitution, if neither candidate gets 270 votes, the House of Representatives selects the president. Which sounds good for Biden, since the Dems control the House right? Well, not really. This is one of those “only in the United States” things that is just so awful. In the House of Representatives the vote is by state alone, one vote per state, the vote of that state determined by a vote among that state’s Representatives. Wyoming’s one representative cancels out California’s 40 something. One vote per state, 750,000 people cancel 40 million. Currently, there is no conceivable way that the House of Representatives would vote in any way but 26 Republican votes and 24 Democratic votes. It is AGAIN a minority slanted process. **** Unless Republicans from two states (I don’t know who breaks a tie, but someone here will know — and it’s a non-issue unless ...) unless a few Republicans from two states decide they need to abide by the popular will and not allow a stolen election, Donald Trump wins. The country is thrown into chaos because the vote is so obviously “rigged” — only by Trump. THAT is how Trump “Refuses to leave.” No sane person doubts that Biden won. But the power hungry Trump-Republicans do not care any longer. They are fascists and are FINE with the country knowing Trump lost, and yet remains president. Chaos be damned, the storm troopers will kill until everyone is subdued.
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Post by searay on Jul 28, 2020 13:09:02 GMT -5
I don't see a path for Trump to win. It'll be Biden for the next four yrs but we're still screwed. Stock market will not like this Well there may be a loophole in the law that Trump could exploit, and I wouldn't put it passed him. Let me explain... Biden wins by less than 45 electoral votes spread across several purple states with pro Trump Governors. Trump immediately points at THOSE states — the ones with Trump governors — as the ones that are “RIGGED!” After all, Trump already told his supporters this would happen, he KNEW IT!! Trump sues in those states in state court and in federal court to enjoin those states “until the real winner can be sorted out.” The states with Trump governors never really get around to finalizing the winner — it’s just too complex, like Florida in 2000, only there is “no winner.” They can’t pull off a “Trump victory,” they just can’t “ensure a Biden win.” Thus, those states refuse to send delegates to vote in the electoral college. The United States Supreme Court rules only that the Electoral college vote on December 14, 2020, the electoral college votes. With four states missing neither candidate gets 270 votes. By the constitution, if neither candidate gets 270 votes, the House of Representatives selects the president. Which sounds good for Biden, since the Dems control the House right? Well, not really. This is one of those “only in the United States” things that is just so awful. In the House of Representatives the vote is by state alone, one vote per state, the vote of that state determined by a vote among that state’s Representatives. Wyoming’s one representative cancels out California’s 40 something. One vote per state, 750,000 people cancel 40 million. Currently, there is no conceivable way that the House of Representatives would vote in any way but 26 Republican votes and 24 Democratic votes. It is AGAIN a minority slanted process. **** Unless Republicans from two states (I don’t know who breaks a tie, but someone here will know — and it’s a non-issue unless ...) unless a few Republicans from two states decide they need to abide by the popular will and not allow a stolen election, Donald Trump wins. The country is thrown into chaos because the vote is so obviously “rigged” — only by Trump. THAT is how Trump “Refuses to leave.” No sane person doubts that Biden won. But the power hungry Trump-Republicans do not care any longer. They are fascists and are FINE with the country knowing Trump lost, and yet remains president. Chaos be damned, the storm troopers will kill until everyone is subdued. You really are a conspiracy nut. No, nothing of the sort will happen.
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Post by vtreds22 on Jul 29, 2020 21:29:27 GMT -5
Well there may be a loophole in the law that Trump could exploit, and I wouldn't put it passed him. Let me explain... Biden wins by less than 45 electoral votes spread across several purple states with pro Trump Governors. Trump immediately points at THOSE states — the ones with Trump governors — as the ones that are “RIGGED!” After all, Trump already told his supporters this would happen, he KNEW IT!! Trump sues in those states in state court and in federal court to enjoin those states “until the real winner can be sorted out.” The states with Trump governors never really get around to finalizing the winner — it’s just too complex, like Florida in 2000, only there is “no winner.” They can’t pull off a “Trump victory,” they just can’t “ensure a Biden win.” Thus, those states refuse to send delegates to vote in the electoral college. The United States Supreme Court rules only that the Electoral college vote on December 14, 2020, the electoral college votes. With four states missing neither candidate gets 270 votes. By the constitution, if neither candidate gets 270 votes, the House of Representatives selects the president. Which sounds good for Biden, since the Dems control the House right? Well, not really. This is one of those “only in the United States” things that is just so awful. In the House of Representatives the vote is by state alone, one vote per state, the vote of that state determined by a vote among that state’s Representatives. Wyoming’s one representative cancels out California’s 40 something. One vote per state, 750,000 people cancel 40 million. Currently, there is no conceivable way that the House of Representatives would vote in any way but 26 Republican votes and 24 Democratic votes. It is AGAIN a minority slanted process. **** Unless Republicans from two states (I don’t know who breaks a tie, but someone here will know — and it’s a non-issue unless ...) unless a few Republicans from two states decide they need to abide by the popular will and not allow a stolen election, Donald Trump wins. The country is thrown into chaos because the vote is so obviously “rigged” — only by Trump. THAT is how Trump “Refuses to leave.” No sane person doubts that Biden won. But the power hungry Trump-Republicans do not care any longer. They are fascists and are FINE with the country knowing Trump lost, and yet remains president. Chaos be damned, the storm troopers will kill until everyone is subdued. You really are a conspiracy nut. No, nothing of the sort will happen. My grandparents live in rural America and tried to tell me that Obama was going to institute martial law and refuse to leave office when his time was up. They also watch a lot of Fox News.
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Post by searay on Jul 29, 2020 22:09:16 GMT -5
You really are a conspiracy nut. No, nothing of the sort will happen. My grandparents live in rural America and tried to tell me that Obama was going to institute martial law and refuse to leave office when his time was up. They also watch a lot of Fox News. I don't care about any grandparent story. Anyone who thinks the House of Rep scenario will play out is nuts
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Post by bobroberts on Jul 31, 2020 21:41:10 GMT -5
My grandparents live in rural America and tried to tell me that Obama was going to institute martial law and refuse to leave office when his time was up. They also watch a lot of Fox News. I don't care about any grandparent story. Anyone who thinks the House of Rep scenario will play out is nuts I never said that scenario was going to play out. I was pointing out that there is a very small and almost impossible way for Trump to stay in the White House, but legally Trump does have the above option IF he choses to go down that road.
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Post by searay on Aug 3, 2020 10:04:01 GMT -5
I don't care about any grandparent story. Anyone who thinks the House of Rep scenario will play out is nuts I never said that scenario was going to play out. I was pointing out that there is a very small and almost impossible way for Trump to stay in the White House, but legally Trump does have the above option IF he choses to go down that road. There is no way that scenario will play out. None.
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Post by yorak on Sept 4, 2020 13:19:05 GMT -5
Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ - donnie
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Post by bobroberts on Sept 5, 2020 6:09:34 GMT -5
Is Trump's campain going broke?
They just pulled all their planed TV ads in Arizona for the next few weeks, saving the campain around 580,000 dollars. Trump is only down around 4 points in Arizona so he still has a shot to win in a key state that he needs to win to be re-elected. Which makes this move very odd, unless they're pinching every penny they can.
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Post by searay on Sept 8, 2020 10:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by yorak on Sept 9, 2020 8:26:48 GMT -5
& he doubles down on disparaging the military. What a knucklehead
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Post by bobroberts on Sept 9, 2020 19:20:29 GMT -5
So that's what the right wing is going with here? A picture of a possible skin head with prison tats wearing a shirt saying that Biden would be worse than a virus that has reshaped the entire world...Is that all you got?
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Post by searay on Sept 14, 2020 15:42:13 GMT -5
So that's what the right wing is going with here? A picture of a possible skin head with prison tats wearing a shirt saying that Biden would be worse than a virus that has reshaped the entire world...Is that all you got? Personally attacking the guy wearing the shirt? Is that all you got? OK, just for you:
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Post by yorak on Sept 15, 2020 14:54:19 GMT -5
covid19? oh you mean the trumpvirus. everyone's calling it that, the best people. tremendous
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