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Floyd
May 21, 2015 12:57:18 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 12:57:18 GMT -5
How good is Logan Shore?
I'm watching the SEC Tournament and he just pulled the string on a ridiculously good change-up, reminded me of Chase Anderson's double-plus change-up, good tumble and fade. Obviously, he's not throwing it that well every time, but that one was really strong.
His strikeout rate isn't great, but maybe there's room for improvement next year as a junior when he becomes draft eligible.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 13:00:18 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 13:00:18 GMT -5
Oh, and while we're on the subject of not yet draft-eligible players in your neck of the woods, just how good is Hurricane Zack Collins? He looks like a stud with the bat.
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Post by floydgator on May 21, 2015 14:12:45 GMT -5
I expect Shore to be a first team AA next year as a junior. Last year he was a stud (national freshman of the year). Never a bad night. Walked almost nobody. Pitched brilliantly without feeling like he needed to strike everybody out. This year, frankly, he has been a little disappointing. He struggled with health a little early this year and his record reflects the fact that he matches us weekly with SEC #1 starters like Carson Fullmer and Kyle Cody. He's had 2 or 3 bad outings which is surprising. AJ Puk is the talent. He'll be a first rounder next year no matter what he does on the field, a candidate for 1-1 if he gains any consistency. Puk is a 7 inning shutout or 2 innings with 6 ER kind of guy. Shore was supposed to be the bedrock. He seems to be rounding into form now, though. He's cruising through Auburn with a big lead right now. We need him to be the Shore of last year if we are going to make a run at the national title.
He has good size (listed at 6'2" 215) and he's a very smart pitcher. Throws low 90s and has a good mix. He's Maddox-esque in his approach, not that he is that quality of course. He's a definite starter, but he's not a ridiculous talent. If he pitches next season like he did last season, my guess is late first round to second.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 14:14:29 GMT -5
Post by floydgator on May 21, 2015 14:14:29 GMT -5
Oh, and while we're on the subject of not yet draft-eligible players in your neck of the woods, just how good is Hurricane Zack Collins? He looks like a stud with the bat. Screw the Canes. But yeah, he's really good. I don't know what kind of prospect he is, but he can rake. My new 2nd choice after Kyle Tucker is Andrew Benintendi from Arky. I've watched him a few times this year and he is an impossible out for college pitchers. Everyone pitches around him like he is the plague, and he still crushes the ball.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 14:47:51 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 14:47:51 GMT -5
Oh, and while we're on the subject of not yet draft-eligible players in your neck of the woods, just how good is Hurricane Zack Collins? He looks like a stud with the bat. Screw the Canes. But yeah, he's really good. I don't know what kind of prospect he is, but he can rake. My new 2nd choice after Kyle Tucker is Andrew Benintendi from Arky. I've watched him a few times this year and he is an impossible out for college pitchers. Everyone pitches around him like he is the plague, and he still crushes the ball. lol We're on the same page there. I have more disdain for the Hurricanes than any other program in the country. So, I have to get over that bias with their players. That said, Zack Collins seems to have some serious thunder in his bat and a real ability to control the strikezone. I'm not sure at what defensive position he'll land, but he looks like a serious hitter.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 14:50:01 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 14:50:01 GMT -5
I expect Shore to be a first team AA next year as a junior. Last year he was a stud (national freshman of the year). Never a bad night. Walked almost nobody. Pitched brilliantly without feeling like he needed to strike everybody out. This year, frankly, he has been a little disappointing. He struggled with health a little early this year and his record reflects the fact that he matches us weekly with SEC #1 starters like Carson Fullmer and Kyle Cody. He's had 2 or 3 bad outings which is surprising. AJ Puk is the talent. He'll be a first rounder next year no matter what he does on the field, a candidate for 1-1 if he gains any consistency. Puk is a 7 inning shutout or 2 innings with 6 ER kind of guy. Shore was supposed to be the bedrock. He seems to be rounding into form now, though. He's cruising through Auburn with a big lead right now. We need him to be the Shore of last year if we are going to make a run at the national title. He has good size (listed at 6'2" 215) and he's a very smart pitcher. Throws low 90s and has a good mix. He's Maddox-esque in his approach, not that he is that quality of course. He's a definite starter, but he's not a ridiculous talent. If he pitches next season like he did last season, my guess is late first round to second. Good stuff, thanks for the insight!
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 15:09:43 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 15:09:43 GMT -5
Oh, and while we're on the subject of not yet draft-eligible players in your neck of the woods, just how good is Hurricane Zack Collins? He looks like a stud with the bat. Screw the Canes. But yeah, he's really good. I don't know what kind of prospect he is, but he can rake. My new 2nd choice after Kyle Tucker is Andrew Benintendi from Arky. I've watched him a few times this year and he is an impossible out for college pitchers. Everyone pitches around him like he is the plague, and he still crushes the ball. I've only seen one Benintendi AB so far. He hit two balls (one foul) the opposite way to left. His swing looked like mostly upper-body, but that was probably just a slashing, fight-it-off type swing to the opposite field. His production is very intriguing. No doubt about that, but it seems like he'll be gone before we pick.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 15:11:47 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 15:11:47 GMT -5
What am I missing on Walker Buehler? I'm not seeing anything all that exciting in his game. Am I wrong? Is the sum total greater than the individual parts?
Fullmer seems much more electric.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 16:27:29 GMT -5
Post by floydgator on May 21, 2015 16:27:29 GMT -5
What am I missing on Walker Buehler? I'm not seeing anything all that exciting in his game. Am I wrong? Is the sum total greater than the individual parts? Fullmer seems much more electric. Nothing. Buehler is one of those guys who gets a rep and people hold on to it no matter what he does on the field. I never understood how he was projected as a first rounder, much less higher than Fullmer. People are starting to get it. Fullmer is a horse. WORST CASE scenario, he's a monster out of the pen. I think he's a good rotation starter (maybe a good #2) in the bigs. I saw somebody put him at 1-1, that's a reach but he's really good. I don't know Fecal Matter about most of these guys, but I think Swanson is the biggest lock to be worth the 1-1 pick. The local kid Rogers seems like a bust waiting to happen to me.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 17:42:45 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 17:42:45 GMT -5
What am I missing on Walker Buehler? I'm not seeing anything all that exciting in his game. Am I wrong? Is the sum total greater than the individual parts? Fullmer seems much more electric. Nothing. Buehler is one of those guys who gets a rep and people hold on to it no matter what he does on the field. I never understood how he was projected as a first rounder, much less higher than Fullmer. People are starting to get it. Fullmer is a horse. WORST CASE scenario, he's a monster out of the pen. I think he's a good rotation starter (maybe a good #2) in the bigs. I saw somebody put him at 1-1, that's a reach but he's really good. I don't know Fecal Matter about most of these guys, but I think Swanson is the biggest lock to be worth the 1-1 pick. The local kid Rogers seems like a bust waiting to happen to me. Yeah, I guess if you squint you could see a Mike Leake type career for Buehler, but seems like that's his ceiling and there's a lot of risk to getting there. He just doesn't feel like a top half of the first round type pick, not enough upside or probability.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 19:28:33 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 19:28:33 GMT -5
What am I missing on Walker Buehler? I'm not seeing anything all that exciting in his game. Am I wrong? Is the sum total greater than the individual parts? Fullmer seems much more electric. Nothing. Buehler is one of those guys who gets a rep and people hold on to it no matter what he does on the field. I never understood how he was projected as a first rounder, much less higher than Fullmer. People are starting to get it. Fullmer is a horse. WORST CASE scenario, he's a monster out of the pen. I think he's a good rotation starter (maybe a good #2) in the bigs. I saw somebody put him at 1-1, that's a reach but he's really good. I don't know Fecal Matter about most of these guys, but I think Swanson is the biggest lock to be worth the 1-1 pick. The local kid Rogers seems like a bust waiting to happen to me. I'd imagine the Astros would do cartwheels if they could land both Dansby and Fullmer in the first round.
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 21:26:32 GMT -5
Post by floydgator on May 21, 2015 21:26:32 GMT -5
I know you aren't supposed to draft for need, but what in the hell would they do with another SS? How long before you can trade a draft pick?
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Floyd
May 21, 2015 22:15:22 GMT -5
Post by Lark11 on May 21, 2015 22:15:22 GMT -5
I know you aren't supposed to draft for need, but what in the hell would they do with another SS? How long before you can trade a draft pick? There's still some question as to whether Correa can stick at short over the long-haul, though people are starting to come around to the idea. Still, those problems usually sort themselves out. Maybe one moves to third, the outfield, or is traded away for something else that fills a need.
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Floyd
May 22, 2015 7:35:05 GMT -5
Post by The Duke on May 22, 2015 7:35:05 GMT -5
If the Astros find a great glove that can still hit for SS, Correa will just slide over to 3B. Correa can stick at SS, but he still isn't likely better than average defensively. He's going to be a monster with the bat though.
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Floyd
May 22, 2015 7:58:16 GMT -5
Post by floydgator on May 22, 2015 7:58:16 GMT -5
Got it. Makes sense.
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