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Post by kinsm on Apr 15, 2015 22:24:12 GMT -5
It's hard to argue with the players I have in the top 30 (placement is a different story). They match up closely with Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus, Kiley McDaniel's Fangraphs, and MLB.Com's rankings. Outside of the top 30 it gets plenty shaky.
1. LF Jesse Winker 2. RHSP Robert Stephenson 3. RHSP Michael Lorenzen 4. RHSP Nick Howard 5. SS Alex Blandino 6. RHSP Raisel Iglesias 7. RHSP Nick Travieso 8. RHSP Anthony DeSclafani 9. LHSP Amir Garrett 10. RF Kyle Waldrop
11. RF Aristides Aquinio 12. 3B Taylor Sparks 13. RHSP Jon Moscot 14. RHSP Jonathon Crawford 15. RHSP Wyatt Strahan 16. RHSP Jeremy Kivel 17. 3B Gavin LaValley 18. CF Yorman Rodriguez 19. CF Phillip Ervin 20. C Tucker Barnhart
21. CF Junior Felix Arias 22. RHSP Sal Romano 23. 3B Seth Mejias-Brean 24. RHSP Tyler Mahle 25. C Chad Wallach 26. LHSP David Holmberg 27. RHSP Keyvius Sampson 28. RHSP Mark Armstrong 29. OF/1B Sebastian Elizalde 30. RHSP Jackson Stephens
31. LHSP Jacob Constante 32. RF Jeff Gelalich 33. RF Juan Duran
34. RHSP Daniel Corcino 35. LHSP Ismael Guillon 36. 3B Tanner Rahier (suspended) 37. SS Cory Thompson 38. LHSP Ty Boyles 39. RHSP Daniel Wright 40. RHSP Tejay Antone
41. RHRP Zack Weiss 42. RHRP Alejandro Chacin 43. RHRP Matt Magill 44. RHRP Barrett Astin 45. RHSP Zachary Correll 46. C Kyle Skipworth 47. OF Jonathan Reynoso 48. 2B Ryan Wright 49. OF Gabriel Rosa 50. 2B Ty Washington
Notes:
I only ranked players who still maintain mlb rookie eligibility, thus Donald Lutz, Eugenio Suarez, and Carlos Contreras are ineligible for my rankings.
I refrained from ranking anyone who is not on a 2015 stateside active list, so players like Marcos Encarnacion, Adolfi Telleria, Leandro Santana, and Hector Vargas are unranked.
Ben Lively would have ranked 6th on this list, between Blandino and Iglesias.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 15, 2015 23:28:10 GMT -5
Looks good. I not quite that high on Blandino, but I get why you are. I'm a little more bullish on Travieso and Garrett.
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Post by vtreds22 on Apr 16, 2015 17:38:39 GMT -5
I would switch Iglesias and Howard. I'd also switch DeSclafani and Travieso. The rest though I would agree with, for the most part. I'd probably bump Ervin up a few spots.
I'm not very high on Yorman either.
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Post by redskoolaiddrinker on Apr 17, 2015 20:22:06 GMT -5
Looks good. I not quite that high on Blandino, but I get why you are. I'm a little more bullish on Travieso and Garrett. I agree w Duke. Also, I guess I'm a little higher on Holmberg than most everybody, not that I think he's a Top 15 guy. Also higher on Romano, probably bc I trust Doug so much.
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Post by kinsm on Apr 17, 2015 22:00:14 GMT -5
Looks good. I not quite that high on Blandino, but I get why you are. I'm a little more bullish on Travieso and Garrett. I agree w Duke. Also, I guess I'm a little higher on Holmberg than most everybody, not that I think he's a Top 15 guy. Also higher on Romano, probably bc I trust Doug so much. An average fastball velocity of 88 isn't going to get it done in the bigs. Last year, for example, 171 pitchers threw at least 80 innings - only 12 of them threw 88.2 mph or slower FB. One was a knuckleball thrower and the other 11 either have wicked breaking stuff or were primarily retread number 5 starters. The odds are not good for Holmberg.
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Post by kinsm on Apr 17, 2015 22:02:37 GMT -5
And Romano still allowed 169 hits in 148 innings (10.3 H/9 IP)....he has to cut that rate down if he has any chance in the bigs someday.
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Post by kinsm on Apr 17, 2015 22:09:38 GMT -5
I would switch Iglesias and Howard. I'd also switch DeSclafani and Travieso. The rest though I would agree with, for the most part. I'd probably bump Ervin up a few spots. I'm not very high on Yorman either. To be honest with you I'm not high on anyone ranked after 17 unless they've only played one or two seasons in the minors. I don't think Barnhart is ever going to hit enough to justify a roster spot, I don't think YRod will either (at least not with this club), I think Ervin is horrible with his collegiate pedigree, I don't think Mejias has enough power to start in the bigs, I think Wallach will have to move out from behind the plate, etc...
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Post by kramer1 on Apr 18, 2015 12:26:52 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst collection of minor league "talent" in the entire league. Winker, maybe Garrett, and maybe Iglesias. I see nothing else.
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Post by vtreds22 on Apr 18, 2015 13:47:06 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst collection of minor league "talent" in the entire league. Winker, maybe Garrett, and maybe Iglesias. I see nothing else. Lorenzen may be decent. Stephenson will be good if he learns gains better command; pretty similar prospect to Homer Bailey. I like Blandino. We need more hitters like him in the system. He knows how to draw a walk and doesn't try to hit it 550 feet every plate appearance. He could be BP's future replacement. If we suck (which we probably will), we should see an influx of talent in a Cueto deal (along with possibly Leake, Bruce, and Chapman as well).
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Post by kramer1 on Apr 18, 2015 15:40:06 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst collection of minor league "talent" in the entire league. Winker, maybe Garrett, and maybe Iglesias. I see nothing else. Lorenzen may be decent. Stephenson will be good if he learns gains better command; pretty similar prospect to Homer Bailey. I like Blandino. We need more hitters like him in the system. He knows how to draw a walk and doesn't try to hit it 550 feet every plate appearance. He could be BP's future replacement. If we suck (which we probably will), we should see an influx of talent in a Cueto deal (along with possibly Leake, Bruce, and Chapman as well). If we had a competent front office and scouting department.....which we don't.
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Post by redskoolaiddrinker on Apr 18, 2015 19:11:21 GMT -5
Quite possibly the worst collection of minor league "talent" in the entire league. Winker, maybe Garrett, and maybe Iglesias. I see nothing else. Lorenzen may be decent. Stephenson will be good if he learns gains better command; pretty similar prospect to Homer Bailey. I like Blandino. We need more hitters like him in the system. He knows how to draw a walk and doesn't try to hit it 550 feet every plate appearance. He could be BP's future replacement. If we suck (which we probably will), we should see an influx of talent in a Cueto deal (along with possibly Leake, Bruce, and Chapman as well). At this point would we get much for Bruce?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 7:40:12 GMT -5
Tanner Rahier being on that list is a complete joke. Not only is he a woman beater he also sucks as a baseball player.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 7:46:12 GMT -5
Lorenzen may be decent. Stephenson will be good if he learns gains better command; pretty similar prospect to Homer Bailey. I like Blandino. We need more hitters like him in the system. He knows how to draw a walk and doesn't try to hit it 550 feet every plate appearance. He could be BP's future replacement. If we suck (which we probably will), we should see an influx of talent in a Cueto deal (along with possibly Leake, Bruce, and Chapman as well). If we had a competent front office and scouting department.....which we don't. Whether any of them come through to the MLB level will be seen in the future, but Nick Howard, Wyatt Strahan and Lorenzen are off to nice starts this season and have promise for guys who aren't ranked highly on the Baseball America lists. Out of that list of 50 though I must say the bottom 25 are almost all complete garbage. To think that Holmberg, Skipworth and Juan Duran are in the top 50 is pretty freaking pathetic.
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Post by kinsm on Apr 19, 2015 18:57:19 GMT -5
Tanner Rahier being on that list is a complete joke. Not only is he a woman beater he also sucks as a baseball player. My list is a joke or the fact that Rahier is good enough to be considered by me the 36th best prospect in the Reds system is a joke? His ceiling is much better than the vast majority of players in the system. Unfortunately, whether he's a woman beater or not has no bearing on his baseball abilities. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds jettison him when his trial is through with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 5:20:02 GMT -5
Tanner Rahier being on that list is a complete joke. Not only is he a woman beater he also sucks as a baseball player. My list is a joke or the fact that Rahier is good enough to be considered by me the 36th best prospect in the Reds system is a joke? His ceiling is much better than the vast majority of players in the system. Unfortunately, whether he's a woman beater or not has no bearing on his baseball abilities. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds jettison him when his trial is through with. Not saying the list is a joke overall. You can't make scrubs into BA top 100 prospects. Fact is a lot of those guys are total scrubs and will never sniff a MLB roster. Rahier is a joke and a half though. The guy has 3 seasons in the minors and has never hit higher than .238 and plays a power position(3B) and has never had double digit homers. Hitting chicks with rocks may be his forte.
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