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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 20, 2011 14:54:45 GMT -5
Which is the only team that the Reds with whom have not made a trade (including cash transactions) at the major league level this century?
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Post by quantumfootball on Sept 20, 2011 15:52:10 GMT -5
At first, the Angels stuck out like a sore thumb until I remembered a quiz I made earlier this year where Dustin Moseley had been traded to them at some point, so I will go with the Braves.
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Post by Lark11 on Sept 20, 2011 18:15:19 GMT -5
Rays or Twins.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 20, 2011 18:25:46 GMT -5
At first, the Angels stuck out like a sore thumb until I remembered a quiz I made earlier this year where Dustin Moseley had been traded to them at some point, so I will go with the Braves. No, sorry. On March 26, 2004, the Reds traded Chris Reitsma to the Braves for Bubba Nelson & Jung Bong. Which probably explains why we haven't dealt with them for the past seven years. Bong had three lousy starts for the Reds and Nelson never made it past AAA. Reitsma would notch 17 saves over the next couple of years for the Braves before flaming out in 2006.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 20, 2011 18:37:21 GMT -5
Nope, oh for two: Wayne Krivksy made two deals within six weeks with his former employers, getting the better deal each time -- although the parts he got were questionable. On July 31, 2006, he sent minor league pitcher Zach Ward to the Twins for Kyle Lohse, in a deadline deal. Lohse was an inconsistant #3 starter (behind Harang and Arroyo) and netted the Reds Matt Maloney eventually. Ward is out of baseball. Back on June 15, he returned Juan Castro to the Reds for outfielder Brandon Roberts. Roberts is currently in Rochester, where he is not at all spectacular (which pretty much sums up Juan Castro's return to GABP). Castro was still playing Big League Ball earlier this year. Speaking of the Krivmeister, he also got another win in his July 28, 2007, deal with the Rays - sending southpaw specialist (and I use the term very loosely indeed) and his 7.16 ERA plus minor league reliver Calvin Medlock to the Rays in exchange for utility infielder Jorge Cantu and outfielder Shaun Cumberland and cash. Shackleford never saw a major league stadium again. Medlock never broke AAA and appears to be out of baseball. Cumberland left the Reds as a minor league free agent and was last spotted in Independent ball. Cantu was brilliant for the Reds - putting up a .298/.382/.491 line in limited time (27 games) before being quite inexplicably nontendered as part of the Krivsky Revolving Middle Infielder Game.
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Post by schellis on Sept 20, 2011 18:50:19 GMT -5
The Mariners or Rockies
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Post by bobroberts on Sept 21, 2011 9:48:23 GMT -5
A few years back the Reds traded Robert Mannuel to the M's for Balentin(sp).
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Post by bobroberts on Sept 21, 2011 9:58:33 GMT -5
The Mets? There was some bad blood between the 2 front offices over the Larkin deal that fell through at the last minute, so maybe that friction carried over into this century...
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Post by Lark11 on Sept 21, 2011 11:21:10 GMT -5
Nope, oh for two: Wayne Krivksy made two deals within six weeks with his former employers, getting the better deal each time -- although the parts he got were questionable. On July 31, 2006, he sent minor league pitcher Zach Ward to the Twins for Kyle Lohse, in a deadline deal. Lohse was an inconsistant #3 starter (behind Harang and Arroyo) and netted the Reds Matt Maloney eventually. Ward is out of baseball. Back on June 15, he returned Juan Castro to the Reds for outfielder Brandon Roberts. Roberts is currently in Rochester, where he is not at all spectacular (which pretty much sums up Juan Castro's return to GABP). Castro was still playing Big League Ball earlier this year. Speaking of the Krivmeister, he also got another win in his July 28, 2007, deal with the Rays - sending southpaw specialist (and I use the term very loosely indeed) and his 7.16 ERA plus minor league reliver Calvin Medlock to the Rays in exchange for utility infielder Jorge Cantu and outfielder Shaun Cumberland and cash. Shackleford never saw a major league stadium again. Medlock never broke AAA and appears to be out of baseball. Cumberland left the Reds as a minor league free agent and was last spotted in Independent ball. Cantu was brilliant for the Reds - putting up a .298/.382/.491 line in limited time (27 games) before being quite inexplicably nontendered as part of the Krivsky Revolving Middle Infielder Game. Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember people being up-in-arms over the Reds trading away Zach Ward for Kyle Lohse.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 21, 2011 12:08:39 GMT -5
No and no. The Reds and Rox have hooked up three times this decade, the latest in 2005 in the earth-shaking Allen Simpson for Jose Acevedo deal. Truly a lose-lose deal -- Acevedo made five bad starts for the Rox in 31 appearances: 6.47 ERA, 1.594 WHIP('nuff said) while Simpson's nine appearances in a Reds uniform challenged Acevedo's results. Simpson would be cut in the next spring training, and have two more appearances for the Brewers before becoming a perennail minor-league free agent. The Manuel for Balantien deal on July 29, 2009 was in fact the last deal between the two clubs. They also hooked up in 2006 in a deal for Eddie Guadardo and on Feb. 10, 2000 in the Griffey (not Goofy) deal.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 21, 2011 12:17:50 GMT -5
The Mets? There was some bad blood between the 2 front offices over the Larkin deal that fell through at the last minute, so maybe that friction carried over into this century... The Mets and Reds last hooked up on the annual Jeff Conine trade on Aug. 20, 2007. Conine had a very uninspired final 21 games in his career with a .195/.306/.244 slash line. Uninspired equally applies to the Reds return on the deal -- Sean Henry made in to AAA for all of three games and is currently playing (still) at AA level for the Braves. Jose Castro finished the year with the Bats and looks to leave as a minor league free agent this winter. The Reds also connected with the Mets in the Dave Williams for Robert Manual, and Shawn Estes deals.
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Post by victor2111 on Sept 21, 2011 12:30:48 GMT -5
I would guess a team in the division most likely.
I know its not Pirates(Casey), Houston(Keppinger), Brewers(Edmonds), Cubs(Hamilton).
So I will go with St Louis. Can't remember any trades with them off the top of my head.
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Post by quantumfootball on Sept 21, 2011 13:43:55 GMT -5
I think Ryan Franklin went to the Cardinals via trade, so I will go with the Giants. Also, very sneaky with the rule about cash trades as I think that Chad Moeller for $1 is the only thing keeping the Dodgers from being the answer.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 21, 2011 15:27:04 GMT -5
I would guess a team in the division most likely. I know its not Pirates(Casey), Houston(Keppinger), Brewers(Edmonds), Cubs(Hamilton). So I will go with St Louis. Can't remember any trades with them off the top of my head. Oddly, St. Louis has been the Reds most frequent trade partner in history. The last deal was on April 21, 2006, when we sold them Timo Perez. Timo was in 23 games for the World Champs with an unimpressive .194/.286/.323 slash line.
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Post by dukecrunchybagel on Sept 21, 2011 15:31:23 GMT -5
I think Ryan Franklin went to the Cardinals via trade, so I will go with the Giants. Also, very sneaky with the rule about cash trades as I think that Chad Moeller for $1 is the only thing keeping the Dodgers from being the answer. Yes, indeed, we have a winner. The Reds and Giants have not hooked up in a trade since the blockbuster 1995 deadline deal that netted us Darren Lewis, Dave Burba, and Mark Portugal, for Deion Sanders and a bunch of scrups (Dave McCarty, Ricky Pickett, Scott Service, & John Roper). A definite winner for Old Leatherpants there, which might explain why the Giants haven't dealt with us since. BTW, we've hooked two other times this century with the Dodgers, the Cody Ross for Ben Kozlowski deal in 2006, and the first Juan Castro deal (for Kenny Lutz) deal in 2000.
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