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Post by columbusbengal on Apr 23, 2008 10:18:48 GMT -5
I came over here to get the serious discussion of this and so far no one has started the thread (as far as I can tell).
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 23, 2008 10:56:06 GMT -5
Point 1: Our farm system is stocked like it never has been before. Krivsky was a huge factor in that. Jocketty wasn't.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 23, 2008 10:59:07 GMT -5
Point 1: Our farm system is stocked like it never has been before. Krivsky was a huge factor in that. Jocketty wasn't. Krivsky had very little to do with scouting for the draft, and hopefully Jockety keeps it that way and lets the scouting department do its thing. |
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 23, 2008 11:06:40 GMT -5
Point 1: Our farm system is stocked like it never has been before. Krivsky was a huge factor in that. Jocketty wasn't. Krivsky had very little to do with scouting for the draft, and hopefully Jockety keeps it that way and lets the scouting department do its thing. True, but it wasn't all via the draft. Some of it was making the right trades to get young impact guys (Thompson) and some of it was holding onto the young guys instead of trading them for that one make or break guy (Bedard and Lieber v Cueto, Bruce, Homer, and Votto) |
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Post by tmil23 on Apr 23, 2008 11:09:52 GMT -5
Krivsky had very little to do with scouting for the draft, and hopefully Jockety keeps it that way and lets the scouting department do its thing. True, but it wasn't all via the draft. Some of it was making the right trades to get young impact guys (Thompson) and some of it was holding onto the young guys instead of trading them for that one make or break guy (Bedard and Lieber v Cueto, Bruce, Homer, and Votto) Honestly, we really don't know who stopped the Blanton/Bedard trades whether it be Bob, Jocketty or Wayne. At least I haven't read where Wayne K decided they were bad deals. |
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 23, 2008 11:17:02 GMT -5
True, but it wasn't all via the draft. Some of it was making the right trades to get young impact guys (Thompson) and some of it was holding onto the young guys instead of trading them for that one make or break guy (Bedard and Lieber v Cueto, Bruce, Homer, and Votto) Honestly, we really don't know who stopped the Blanton/Bedard trades whether it be Bob, Jocketty or Wayne. At least I haven't read where Wayne K decided they were bad deals. DDN today reported that it was Kriv that nixed a Jon Lieber for Joey Votto + 2nd prospect trade 2 years ago. |
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Post by columbusbengal on Apr 23, 2008 11:44:13 GMT -5
Point 1: Our farm system is stocked like it never has been before. Krivsky was a huge factor in that. Jocketty wasn't. Honestly though, did Krivsky sign Bruce, Cueto, or EE or Dunn or Votto? Do we really know how his signees are going to do yet? He did get BP, Arroyo, Burton, and Volquez (he had to give up Hamilton, but he found him, too). Somebody signed Cordero (I know Krivsky couldn't do it without approval from Castellini though and it was a no-brainer if Castellini would pony up the money). We may never know who signed Dusty Baker (and we don't know yet whether it was a good or bad move). Overall, I think Jocketty is a better choice, but I wouldn't have made the move right now. It gives the impression that Kriv's done something really onerous in the last month or so. |
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Post by columbusbengal on Apr 23, 2008 11:45:14 GMT -5
True, but it wasn't all via the draft. Some of it was making the right trades to get young impact guys (Thompson) and some of it was holding onto the young guys instead of trading them for that one make or break guy (Bedard and Lieber v Cueto, Bruce, Homer, and Votto) Good points. |
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Post by sabo3b17 on Apr 23, 2008 11:52:21 GMT -5
[/quote] Honestly though, did Krivsky sign Bruce, Cueto, or EE or Dunn or Votto? Do we really know how his signeesIt gives the impression that Kriv's done something really onerous in the last month or so. [/quote] Ya he did he signed Patterson to a contract  We have plenty of people to fill that void, in freel, hopper and Bruce, but whoever did sign Harriston to a deal, that may be another Phillips in the making which would be sweet. |
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We have plenty of people to fill that void, in freel, hopper and Bruce, but whoever did sign Harriston to a deal, that may be another Phillips in the making which would be sweet. 