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Post by mrpotamus on Apr 20, 2008 17:46:56 GMT -5
Apparently the Rangers are pretty worried about Hamilton's injury risks.
This just confirms how good of a move it was to trade Hamilton for Volquez.
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 20, 2008 17:49:17 GMT -5
Since when is Hamilton fragile? I mean I know he was on drugs but that doesn't make him injury-prone...I don't think that little injury last year indicates that he isn't durable in the long run...
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 17:51:58 GMT -5
He's got a line of .299/.360/.545/.905 on the season with 4 homers and an 8/8 K/BB ratio.
In addition, he's hit safely in 15 of 18 games this year and is playing a very good centerfield for the Rangers.
He's yet to miss a game because of injury and has played 16 of 19 games in the outfield.
The Rangers taking precautions and using him at DH on turf seem logical, but I don't think that proves anything about the trade.
At this point, Edinson has made me feel a bit better about the trade, though it still isn't one I would have made.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 17:52:49 GMT -5
Since when is Hamilton fragile? I mean I know he was on drugs but that doesn't make him injury-prone...I don't think that little injury last year indicates that he isn't durable in the long run... I agree with this. He's had one injury plagued season, but I don't think that is a large enough sample size to conclude that he's going to be a career long injury risk. |
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Post by mrpotamus on Apr 20, 2008 18:01:39 GMT -5
His injuries are a risk not worth taking. He has great offensive potential and plays solid defense, but we have more left-handed outfielders than we can shake a stick at. In the long run, a 1 or 2 starter is far more valuable than a left-handed outfielder to this team. And even if Hamilton is not more prone to injuries than the average player, the perception that he is would be a problem itself. We do not have a DH, so he would probably be sitting in unfavorable conditions were he still a Red.
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 20, 2008 18:01:51 GMT -5
I dont think Hamilton will have a HUGE injury risk
Every now and then he will get hurt but that is every player besides Cal Ripken
Still though if Edison can continue to pitch like this I make the deal 100 times out of a 100 because we needed the pitching.
I dont think Hamilton not being here is what is hurting us offense. Keppinger and sometimes Griff are the only ones producing.
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 20, 2008 18:03:09 GMT -5
I agree it was a good move, but not because of Hamilton's perceived fragility.
Hamilton is kicking it out in Texas, and VolKz has pitched great so far. It's a win-win trade.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 18:06:06 GMT -5
His injuries are a risk not worth taking. He has great offensive potential and plays solid defense, but we have more left-handed outfielders than we can shake a stick at. In the long run, a 1 or 2 starter is far more valuable than a left-handed outfielder to this team. And even if Hamilton is not more prone to injuries than the average player, the perception that he is would be a problem itself. We do not have a DH, so he would probably be sitting in unfavorable conditions were he still a Red. If that's the case, then I question why we went out and signed Corey Patterson to a $3M contract. For me, it's Edwin who should have been traded for starting pitching this offseason and nothing he's done thus far convinces me otherwise. |
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Post by mrpotamus on Apr 20, 2008 18:14:34 GMT -5
I would have much rather traded Edwin as well, but I doubt he would have brought us Volquez. Plus, as of now, and perhaps next year, Hamilton is easier to replace than Edwin. That will certainly change when Francisco and Frazier are ready.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 18:15:54 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see if Edinson's success is sustainable. On the year, he's got a 5.3 BB/9 and a 9.4 K/9. Obviously, it's a small sample size and he may have been getting squeezed by the ump in one game, but that's still a lot of free passes. It's hard to imagine him maintaining good success if he can't limit the extra baserunners allowed via the walk. Still, it's a very nice start to the season, so let's hope he can keep it up.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 18:17:35 GMT -5
I would have much rather traded Edwin as well, but I doubt he would have brought us Volquez. Plus, as of now, and perhaps next year, Hamilton is easier to replace than Edwin. That will certainly change when Francisco and Frazier are ready. True, he probably wouldn't have brought us Volquez, but he could have brought in a solid starting pitcher. And, we'd still have Hamilton, who is a much better player than Edwin. I've always thought we should have dealt Edwin in a package to the Giants for a package centered around Kevin Correia. Personally, I'll take Correia + Hamilton over Volquez + Edwin, but that's just me. |
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 20, 2008 18:19:00 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see if Edinson's success is sustainable. On the year, he's got a 5.3 BB/9 and a 9.4 K/9. Obviously, it's a small sample size and he may have been getting squeezed by the ump in one game, but that's still a lot of free passes. It's hard to imagine him maintaining good success if he can't limit the extra baserunners allowed via the walk. Still, it's a very nice start to the season, so let's hope he can keep it up. Well, his last start vs. the Cubs the ump was an absolute idiot. That said, he does issue way more walks than Cueto and Harang do, but I think Cueto and Harang are the exception in MLB rather than the rule. |
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 20, 2008 18:28:04 GMT -5
And consider that we have Jay Bruce ready and waiting to be a Hamilton-esque player, which was undoubtedly a large consideration in the trade...
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 20, 2008 18:35:34 GMT -5
And consider that we have Jay Bruce ready and waiting to be a Hamilton-esque player, which was undoubtedly a large consideration in the trade... Bingo. |
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 20, 2008 18:36:42 GMT -5
And consider that we have Jay Bruce ready and waiting to be a Hamilton-esque player, which was undoubtedly a large consideration in the trade... Bingo. Well, another consideration should be that both Dunn and Griffey could be gone during or after 2008. |
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