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Post by Dustrated on Nov 9, 2020 16:26:54 GMT -5
LOL!!! Actually its less than half. I can't imagine the boomers fairing to well on the battlefield. You are bonkers man. Did you join Parler yet? Democrats want to get rid of guns. Even though I'm anti-gun I'll gladly be on the side that has them over the side that counters with legalized hard drugs. 2008 Fox News: If you vote for Obama, he is going to take your guns away. 8 Years later... No guns taken away. 2020 Fox News: If you vote for Biden, he is going to take your guns away. You are told this to get the gun nuts riled up. Nobody is going to take your guns. Will they make common sense laws to prevent insane people from getting them? Yes. Will they outlaw things that really only assist in creating mass casualties and are unnecessary to protect your family. Maybe.. It seems to be difficult to even get those to pass. If they take away guns who are they gonna send to get the guns? The police? The army? Or perhaps the Space Force. Every four years the democrats are going to take all the guns away. It is nonsense. When a democrat says, "Maybe we don't need 200 round magazine drums going around". Fox News reports it as, "They want to take all of your guns away." And then people like you buy that.
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Post by searay on Nov 10, 2020 8:47:53 GMT -5
Democrats want to get rid of guns. Even though I'm anti-gun I'll gladly be on the side that has them over the side that counters with legalized hard drugs. 2008 Fox News: If you vote for Obama, he is going to take your guns away. 8 Years later... No guns taken away. 2020 Fox News: If you vote for Biden, he is going to take your guns away. You are told this to get the gun nuts riled up. Nobody is going to take your guns. Will they make common sense laws to prevent insane people from getting them? Yes. Will they outlaw things that really only assist in creating mass casualties and are unnecessary to protect your family. Maybe.. It seems to be difficult to even get those to pass. If they take away guns who are they gonna send to get the guns? The police? The army? Or perhaps the Space Force. Every four years the democrats are going to take all the guns away. It is nonsense. When a democrat says, "Maybe we don't need 200 round magazine drums going around". Fox News reports it as, "They want to take all of your guns away." And then people like you buy that. Under Obama we came very close to having our 2nd Amendment rights taken away. Google McDonald vs the city of Chicago. The city banned handguns. He said he had a right to own one in order to protect himself. It went to the SCOTUS. He won 5-4. Thus he was one vote short of losing his 2nd amendment rights. If Chicago could do this, so could other cities and states. So there you go. A concrete example of how close we came to having our guns taken away. The case was argued and decided in 2010 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_ChicagoThis is why Trump winning in 2016 was sooo important. If Hillary had appointed 3 justices our gun rights would be long gone by now
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Post by kinsm on Nov 10, 2020 9:18:43 GMT -5
He was not one vote short of losing his right to bear arms, as he was still allowed to legally own long guns.
The majority opinion in that case didn't even agree on the rationale, fwiw. Alito, for example, actually agree that the restrictions of certain firearms was legal.
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Post by kinsm on Nov 10, 2020 9:20:04 GMT -5
Oh, and Obama had nothing to do with that case of "attempting to take away his guns". The law in question, had been on the books since 1982, when Ronald Reagan was in office.
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Post by searay on Nov 10, 2020 14:18:33 GMT -5
He was not one vote short of losing his right to bear arms, as he was still allowed to legally own long guns. The majority opinion in that case didn't even agree on the rationale, fwiw. Alito, for example, actually agree that the restrictions of certain firearms was legal. Once you've lost your right to own a handgun, the 2nd Amendment is shot. You've lost your rights under the Constitution
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Post by searay on Nov 10, 2020 14:20:05 GMT -5
Oh, and Obama had nothing to do with that case of "attempting to take away his guns". The law in question, had been on the books since 1982, when Ronald Reagan was in office. The law was a local one. Obama's involvement includes appointing justices who would support a city being able to take away your handguns
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Post by schellis on Nov 10, 2020 14:47:49 GMT -5
The thing that gets me about gun laws is they really only hurt responsible gun owners. Not the ones generally that are harming people.
The signs stating that you can’t bring in weapons all well and good but someone who is going to use them isn’t going to see that and go dang they got me.
Those that are willing to murder injury and destroy aren’t going to be concerned that the weapon is illegal
I do agree that police and military should be only ones allowed to carry automatics and armor piercing bullets but again if you are willing to commit murder you’ll find a way to get that stuff too.
Again I don’t own a firearm and have no interest in doing so
What if this were we couldn’t own cars and all had to use robot driven electric cars to get anywhere.
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Post by Dustrated on Nov 10, 2020 14:55:51 GMT -5
The thing that gets me about gun laws is they really only hurt responsible gun owners. Not the ones generally that are harming people. The signs stating that you can’t bring in weapons all well and good but someone who is going to use them isn’t going to see that and go dang they got me. Those that are willing to murder injury and destroy aren’t going to be concerned that the weapon is illegal I do agree that police and military should be only ones allowed to carry automatics and armor piercing bullets but again if you are willing to commit murder you’ll find a way to get that stuff too. Again I don’t own a firearm and have no interest in doing so What if this were we couldn’t own cars and all had to use robot driven electric cars to get anywhere. The signs stating that you can’t bring in weapons all well and good but someone who is going to use them isn’t going to see that and go dang they got me. The whole purpose of this that people don't understand is, when someone does walk into a bank with a gun, they can call the cops immediately. They have broken the law at that moment and the authorities can come. Lets run some scenarios past you.. You go to your bank and there are 3 people that you don't know standing inside the bank with rifles. Sure they are filling out deposit slips, are you walking into the bank at that moment? You don't know their intent. Are you thinking hey these guys look like responsible gun owners, I am going to go make my deposit? 2nd scenario, you go to the Reds game. You head down to row I where your seats are. In row J, 4 dudes with rifles in their laps, maybe not even in their laps, maybe you happened to just notice handguns in their pockets. Now since there are no laws against it, they were able to walk in. You can't report it, because hey its legal. You don't know them, you don't know their intent. Are you sitting your family in Row I? Say you are packing too. Are you going to be watching the game or wishing you had eyes in the back of your head. I guess we will just wait and see if they decide start shooting the place up. That sounds like a real fun world to live in.
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Post by searay on Nov 10, 2020 15:40:02 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with banning guns in public spaces but that's not what Chicago did. They banned handguns in your home. If that was deemed constitutional then there's no limit what guns can be banned.
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Post by kinsm on Nov 10, 2020 19:03:39 GMT -5
The thing that gets me about gun laws is they really only hurt responsible gun owners. Not the ones generally that are harming people. The signs stating that you can’t bring in weapons all well and good but someone who is going to use them isn’t going to see that and go dang they got me. Those that are willing to murder injury and destroy aren’t going to be concerned that the weapon is illegal I do agree that police and military should be only ones allowed to carry automatics and armor piercing bullets but again if you are willing to commit murder you’ll find a way to get that stuff too. Again I don’t own a firearm and have no interest in doing so What if this were we couldn’t own cars and all had to use robot driven electric cars to get anywhere. Almost all of the guns in criminal hands were stolen from non-criminals.
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Post by armo21 on Nov 12, 2020 19:39:45 GMT -5
So we had an election. We can argue all day about Guns, God, Abortion, Economy, Libs and the repugnancy of the Republican Party under Trump. Many Republicans won races down ballot from the presidency in swing states where Trump is claiming fraud. And now this from his Administration: Department of Homeland Security calls election "the most secure in American history" A top committee made up of officials from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and its election partners refuted President Trump’s claims of widespread voter fraud and irregularities in a statement Thursday, calling the election "the most secure in American history." The big picture: Trump has refused to concede to President-elect Joe Biden and is pursuing lawsuits in a number of states with baseless claims of voter fraud. The public statement from the president's own Department of Homeland Security undermines his narrative and is sure to infuriate him. What they’re saying: “There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised," members of the Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee said in a statement. Voting systems were made secure through pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s certification of equipment. The joint statement acknowledged “opportunities for misinformation” and urged voters to seek out election officials as “trusted voices.” Between the lines: This government statement about the election being secure should be unremarkable, Axios' Jonathan Swan notes. But the sad reality is it’s a dangerous document for the officials who wrote it. Every person who had a hand in writing it will almost certainly face the wrath of Trump and his inner circle in the White House. Driving the news: CISA director Christopher Krebs has told associates he expects to be fired after he angered the White House by debunking election misinformation promoted by Trump online, Reuters first reported Thursday. The White House also asked Bryan Ware, assistant director for cybersecurity at CISA, to hand in his resignation, which he did on Thursday, according to Reuters. And yet I got 10 more emails today from the grifter asking for money for his defend the election con (newsflash: this is a cash grab). When his tax returns are finally released and Trump's finances are naked in front of the whole world; he will be fully exposed for the fraud, lies, cheating and stealing he has done his entire life. And the Republicans will say something along the lines of "I support the policy not the man" bullshit to justify their bigoted, racist, ignorant selves. History is going to show these past four plus years for the dumpster fire/fecal matter show that we are going to witness all the way to the end of his term. In case you have not seen Michael Rapaport's take on the election, Enjoy!: www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/jp5i0k/michael_rapaport_spitting_the_truth/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Post by kinsm on Dec 9, 2020 1:21:37 GMT -5
I hope he doesn't get impeached, I want to see him lose by six million votes next year. With the "Safe Harbor" deadline behind us it's all but official, Trump lost the popular vote by over 7 million votes. 51.31% Biden - 81,269,000 46.86% Trump - 74,217,000 1.83% 3rd Party - 2,896,000 8 states had a margin of victory between 0.01% and 5% (123 total electoral votes; 79 won by Biden, 44 by Trump): Georgia, 0.24% – 16 electoral votes to Biden Arizona, 0.31% – 11 to Biden Wisconsin, 0.63% – 10 to Biden Pennsylvania, 1.16% – 20 to Biden North Carolina, 1.35% – 15 to Trump Nevada, 2.39% – 6 to Biden Michigan, 2.78% – 16 to Biden Florida, 3.36% – 29 to Trump an additional 6 states had a margin of victory between 5.01% and 10% (78 total electoral votes; 16 won by Biden, 62 by Trump: Texas, 5.58% – 38 electoral votes by Trump Minnesota, 7.11% – 10 by Biden New Hampshire, 7.35% – 4 by Biden Ohio, 8.03% – 18 by Trump Iowa, 8.20% – 6 by Trump Maine, 9.07% – 2 by Biden
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Post by armo21 on Dec 9, 2020 11:12:30 GMT -5
I hope he doesn't get impeached, I want to see him lose by six million votes next year. With the "Safe Harbor" deadline behind us it's all but official, Trump lost the popular vote by over 7 million votes. 51.31% Biden - 81,269,000 46.86% Trump - 74,217,000 1.83% 3rd Party - 2,896,000 8 states had a margin of victory between 0.01% and 5% (123 total electoral votes; 79 won by Biden, 44 by Trump): Georgia, 0.24% – 16 electoral votes to Biden Arizona, 0.31% – 11 to Biden Wisconsin, 0.63% – 10 to Biden Pennsylvania, 1.16% – 20 to Biden North Carolina, 1.35% – 15 to Trump Nevada, 2.39% – 6 to Biden Michigan, 2.78% – 16 to Biden Florida, 3.36% – 29 to Trump an additional 6 states had a margin of victory between 5.01% and 10% (78 total electoral votes; 16 won by Biden, 62 by Trump: Texas, 5.58% – 38 electoral votes by Trump Minnesota, 7.11% – 10 by Biden New Hampshire, 7.35% – 4 by Biden Ohio, 8.03% – 18 by Trump Iowa, 8.20% – 6 by Trump Maine, 9.07% – 2 by Biden That was a good prediction in September of 2019.
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Post by kinsm on Jan 8, 2021 4:41:38 GMT -5
Control of the senate will come down to two runoff elections in Georgia in January. Democratic Party could have the trifecta if they win them both. Big if. David Perdue has very little chance of losing Another good call on your part.
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Post by searay on Jan 9, 2021 10:51:52 GMT -5
Big if. David Perdue has very little chance of losing Another good call on your part. I was dead wrong. Democrats are beating the Republicans right now in getting the vote out. Crazy system in Georgia because in most states both seats would have gone to Republicans on Election Day but to the Dems' credit they used to system to snag a couple seats. This makes Washington the Dems' city for two yrs. Let's see what they do with it.
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