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Post by floydgator on Apr 23, 2019 14:48:33 GMT -5
As I recall, the reds were strong contenders for Luis Robert before getting outbid by the White Sox. Thank god we didn't waste money there. He's only hitting .475 with and OPS of 1.449 so far in high A (not the California League). It's only 15 games, but he could strike out in every at bat for a week and still be off to a torrid start.
Wait, what?
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Post by crashdavissports on May 6, 2019 11:09:38 GMT -5
I am pretty sure the Reds didn't have enough International money to work with at Chicago. The Reds were a consideration, but he would have had to accept less than what Chicago offered to go to the Reds.
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Post by Lark11 on May 6, 2019 11:21:45 GMT -5
I am pretty sure the Reds didn't have enough International money to work with at Chicago. The Reds were a consideration, but he would have had to accept less than what Chicago offered to go to the Reds. Yeaaaa spending caps........................... |
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Post by kinsm on May 6, 2019 16:13:45 GMT -5
I am pretty sure the Reds didn't have enough International money to work with at Chicago. The Reds were a consideration, but he would have had to accept less than what Chicago offered to go to the Reds. Incorrect, the Reds were already over their allotted pool that year, they could have offered him a billion dollars if they chose to do so. They would have owed a 100% tax on his signing bonus. |
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Post by crashdavissports on May 7, 2019 7:53:41 GMT -5
I am pretty sure the Reds didn't have enough International money to work with at Chicago. The Reds were a consideration, but he would have had to accept less than what Chicago offered to go to the Reds. Incorrect, the Reds were already over their allotted pool that year, they could have offered him a billion dollars if they chose to do so. They would have owed a 100% tax on his signing bonus. So yes. We were over. Because there is no way in hell the Reds were going to overspend on International money by that far and pay a 100% tax on it to boot. That is delusional thinking. |
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Post by cbassxu on May 7, 2019 17:07:10 GMT -5
Incorrect, the Reds were already over their allotted pool that year, they could have offered him a billion dollars if they chose to do so. They would have owed a 100% tax on his signing bonus. So yes. We were over. Because there is no way in hell the Reds were going to overspend on International money by that far and pay a 100% tax on it to boot. That is delusional thinking. Well they did for Alfredo Rodriguez... |
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Post by kinsm on May 7, 2019 19:53:45 GMT -5
So yes. We were over. Because there is no way in hell the Reds were going to overspend on International money by that far and pay a 100% tax on it to boot. That is delusional thinking. Well they did for Alfredo Rodriguez... They did just that for Alfredo Rodriguez, Vladimir Gutierrez, and Jose Garcia. |
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Post by crashdavissports on May 8, 2019 8:05:48 GMT -5
Did those three guys add up to anywhere near what Luis received from the Sox?
I am just asking now, because I was unaware the Reds were willing to spend into penalties for players with as high as their current payroll is. So I am shocked.
If Luis was similar in price as those three guys, then I am disappointed they didn't ante up a little more I guess.
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Post by cbassxu on May 8, 2019 9:50:35 GMT -5
Did those three guys add up to anywhere near what Luis received from the Sox? I am just asking now, because I was unaware the Reds were willing to spend into penalties for players with as high as their current payroll is. So I am shocked. If Luis was similar in price as those three guys, then I am disappointed they didn't ante up a little more I guess. Alfredo, Garcia and Vlad added up to about $17 mil PLUS another $12 mil in overage fees for a total of $29 mil.
Luis Robert was given $26 mil signing bonus so cost the White Sox $52 mil after factoring in the overage fees.
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Post by kinsm on May 8, 2019 10:41:15 GMT -5
Did those three guys add up to anywhere near what Luis received from the Sox? I am just asking now, because I was unaware the Reds were willing to spend into penalties for players with as high as their current payroll is. So I am shocked. If Luis was similar in price as those three guys, then I am disappointed they didn't ante up a little more I guess. AlfRod's tax expenditures made his 7/4/16 deal worth 9M$. Gutierrez's tax expenditures made his 9/7/16 deal worth 9.5M$. Garcia's tax expenditures made his 6/6/17 deal worth 10M$. Their international pool that year was 5.2M$, every penny over it was taxed at 100%. The Reds signed 35 International players during the July 2nd, 2016 to June 15th, 2017 time-frame, those are the only 3 that made big money deals. |
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Post by kinsm on May 8, 2019 10:43:51 GMT -5
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Post by crashdavissports on May 10, 2019 10:41:37 GMT -5
Good to know. However, 26 million with a luxury tax of 26 million does sound like a whole lot for the Reds front office to surrender. |
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Post by kinsm on May 10, 2019 17:31:52 GMT -5
The Reds just ate 15m releasing Kemp.
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Post by crashdavissports on May 15, 2019 10:50:48 GMT -5
The Reds just ate 15m releasing Kemp. I thought the Reds only owed Kemp $10 million after the monetary compensation from the Dodgers and Padres? Also, wasn't that our penalty for getting rid of Bailey and his $28 million? Different than signing an international prospect. |
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