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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 5, 2008 2:40:34 GMT -5
This one will probably be quite a bit easier than version 1.
I created the Cincinnati Red Stockings professional base ball club. I also played for the Red Stockings. I shamefully moved the club to Boston after we suffered a loss.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 5, 2008 3:09:41 GMT -5
This one will probably be quite a bit easier than version 1. I created the Cincinnati Red Stockings professional base ball club. I also played for the Red Stockings. I shamefully moved the club to Boston after we suffered a loss. lol It's not easier for me!! I'm afraid I'm not gonna get this one, so someone will have to pick me up here.
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Post by jsmith on Apr 5, 2008 8:33:04 GMT -5
I am almost sure this one is Harry Wright. For another question to keep the thread going Harry Wright's brother played on the team also--what was his first name?
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Post by schellis on Apr 5, 2008 10:07:11 GMT -5
George Wright
To be fair to Harry teams and players moved all the time back then, the Reds were the first time because they were the first to put into place a salary for the full year I believe.
Here's mine, a five parter
I am the Red with the most career victories. How many of these came while wearing a Cincinnati Red uniform. Who was the opposing pitcher in my final victory, and when the Reds traded me who did they recieve for their trouble, and how many wins did he win while wearing Cincy Red.
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 5, 2008 12:00:16 GMT -5
Yup, Harry Wright.
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Post by jsmith on Apr 7, 2008 12:21:39 GMT -5
May be way off track, but thinking it had to be Christy Mathewson. I know he only won one game as a Red. We got Edd Rouch in that trade as well but no idea who we gave up. This may be the total wrong answer cause Mathewson was not traded by the Reds, but signed on with the Army during WWI. Good Question!
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 7, 2008 12:56:26 GMT -5
May be way off track, but thinking it had to be Christy Mathewson. I know he only won one game as a Red. We got Edd Rouch in that trade as well but no idea who we gave up. This may be the total wrong answer cause Mathewson was not traded by the Reds, but signed on with the Army during WWI. Good Question! Ah, good call. If Mathewson is the right answer, then I know he was traded for Amos Rusie, who didn't even get a single win for the Reds.
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Post by schellis on Apr 7, 2008 19:41:44 GMT -5
The answer is Mattewson. He was traded for Rusie.
Rusie hadn't pitched in the majors for three seasons, pitched in all of three games for the Reds for 22 innings with a 0-1 record with a 8.59 ERA.
Matty though did manage to come back to the Reds years later with Edd Roush and managed to win all of one game as a player manager. It was the only game that Matty started for the Reds.
His final game, which happened to be the only game he pitched while wearing Cincy Red was against Three Finger Brown, I believe it was also Brown's final game.
So in the end the Reds got a hold of two hall of fame pitchers both at the tail end of their careers and out of around 575 career wins got 1 for their trouble.
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Post by schellis on Apr 7, 2008 19:44:24 GMT -5
Without looking name the orignal five members of the hall of fame.
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Post by jsmith on Apr 7, 2008 21:20:59 GMT -5
Wagner, Johnson, Ruth, Cobb and Mathewson(?). I should really know this. I am not sure about Cy Young, but I seem to remember he was not in the first class inducted.
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Post by schellis on Apr 7, 2008 21:52:09 GMT -5
THat was the group.
Young finished 8th behind the orginal five Lajoie and Speaker, he had just under 50% of the vote.
Here's the next one keeping with the HOF vibe.
At one point Joe Dimaggio was considered the greatest living baseball player by most of the media (which was a joke considering that Williams, Aaron, Mays, and even Robinson were alive and well at the time) To show how big factor the east coast bias is in baseball how many times did it take before the Yankee Clipper became a member of the hall of fame.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 7, 2008 23:36:33 GMT -5
THat was the group. Young finished 8th behind the orginal five Lajoie and Speaker, he had just under 50% of the vote. Here's the next one keeping with the HOF vibe. At one point Joe Dimaggio was considered the greatest living baseball player by most of the media (which was a joke considering that Williams, Aaron, Mays, and even Robinson were alive and well at the time) To show how big factor the east coast bias is in baseball how many times did it take before the Yankee Clipper became a member of the hall of fame. If memory serves, he got into the Hall in his 3rd year of eligibility. I'm not sure how that says anything about an East Coast media bias. As for the list, Joe D. was a better ballplayer than both Teddy Ballgame (Though probably not a better hitter) and Jackie Robinson. Personally, I think Joe D. was better than Hank Aaron. Though, I'd probably concede that Mays was a notch above the Yankee Clipper.
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Post by schellis on Apr 8, 2008 7:03:04 GMT -5
Frank Robinson, not Jackie.
I don't see how any player can be considered the greatest living at any point when they can't get into the hall in their first year of eligibilty.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 8, 2008 9:08:07 GMT -5
Frank Robinson, not Jackie. I don't see how any player can be considered the greatest living at any point when they can't get into the hall in their first year of eligibilty. Ah, I gotcha. In short, it's because NO ONE got in in their first year of eligibility. The sports writers made the choice not to elect anyone in their first year of eligibility. That's a reflection on the writers, not on Joltin' Joe. "1955: Elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in his third year of eligibility. (No player between 1937 and 1961 was named in his first year of eligibility.)"
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