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Post by The Duke on Apr 2, 2008 11:31:55 GMT -5
Not counting deferred money, via the DDN www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2008/04/01/ddn040208redssalaries.htmlAdam Dunn $13,000,000 Francisco Cordero 8,625,000 Ken Griffey Jr. 8,282,695 Aaron Harang 6,750,000 Alex Gonzalez 4,625,000 Bronson Arroyo 4,575,000 David Weathers 3,300,000 Jeremy Affeldt 3,000,000 Ryan Freel 3,000,000 Mike Stanton 3,000,000 Brandon Phillips 2,937,500 David Ross 2,525,000 Scott Hatteberg 1,850,000 Josh Fogg 1,500,000 Javier Valentin 1,350,000 Matt Belisle 1,250,000 Juan Castro 975,000 Todd Coffey 907,500 Edwin Encarnacion 450,000 Norris Hopper 402,500 Jeff Keppinger 402,500 Jared Burton 395,000 dl-Bobby Livingston 392,500 Edinson Volquez 392,500 Joey Votto 390,000 I think this is David Ross' last year, as no way is he worth what he is getting paid. If he can step up, opening day catcher in 2009 may be Craig Tatum. |
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 2, 2008 11:38:43 GMT -5
I must be doing something wrong because if my math is correct we have 37.6 million roughly coming off the books if we dont re sign any of our free agents.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 2, 2008 11:53:12 GMT -5
I must be doing something wrong because if my math is correct we have 37.6 million roughly coming off the books if we dont re sign any of our free agents. I haven't done the math in a while, but I know there is potentially a lot of money coming off the books after the season. Dunn, Griffey, Stanton, Hatteberg, Castro, Weathers, Ross, Javy Valentin, Josh Fogg, and Jeremy Affeldt. If we had kept Hamilton, then I think we clearly would've let Dunn and Griffey walk, which would free up ~$20M right there. However, since the Hamilton trade, it seems likely that one of the two will be retained. Still, we'll have some money to play with. |
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Post by The Duke on Apr 2, 2008 11:57:15 GMT -5
I could see a scenario where we ick up Griffey's option, since it is only 1 year, as opposed to paying Dunn over 4-6 years, and move Griffey to left and Bruce slides into RF. Then in 2010 you have Stubbs in center, Bruce in right, and there are a whole host of candidates to play LF (Frazier, Francisco, Dorn, Valaika, Rosales, Keppinger, Hopper, probably more)
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 2, 2008 11:58:32 GMT -5
I dont expect Ryan Freel to be here either.
I thought his contract was only for 2yrs anyway.
I think he is dealt anyway.
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 2, 2008 12:08:12 GMT -5
I could see a scenario where we ick up Griffey's option, since it is only 1 year, as opposed to paying Dunn over 4-6 years, and move Griffey to left and Bruce slides into RF. Then in 2010 you have Stubbs in center, Bruce in right, and there are a whole host of candidates to play LF (Frazier, Francisco, Dorn, Valaika, Rosales, Keppinger, Hopper, probably more) idk man, I'm slowly but surely coming around to Dunner. Especially if he hits better situationally (sacrifice fly on Opening Day, who would have guessed?) |
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Post by The Duke on Apr 2, 2008 12:09:24 GMT -5
It wasn't a sac fly, just good situational hitting. He hit it to the right side of the infield when Phillips was on 3rd, and being a ground ball, Phillips scored with ease.
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Post by awnawboi21 on Apr 2, 2008 12:11:17 GMT -5
It wasn't a sac fly, just good situational hitting. He hit it to the right side of the infield when Phillips was on 3rd, and being a ground ball, Phillips scored with ease. Oh, gotcha. I wasn't able to watch the game until the 4th inning so I just heard there was a sacrifice by Dunn and assumed. At any rate, if he can hit like that all year, he could be in the MVP race in the end of the year. It would drive up his RBI total like crazy. (assuming that he tried to hit it that way...lol) |
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Post by bkleo504 on Apr 2, 2008 14:56:52 GMT -5
The good thing is if Dunn does well I think it will be really in our hands to decide if we want to keep him. Before it seemed Dunn could outplay what we could pay him, but with a good year with improvement in RISP hitting and plate discipline then the Reds could lock up Dunn long term.
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Post by jake2bake4 on Apr 2, 2008 16:45:16 GMT -5
Yeah his sacrifice to the right side actually blew me away when I saw it. I don't remember seeing him do that ever so it was really nice to see. I really hope he is going to turn into a complete player this year.
Also, I read on Fay's blog that Patterson is getting 3 million since he made the ballclub. Didn't know that was going to happen.
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Post by Mousepad.Marauder on Apr 3, 2008 14:45:20 GMT -5
No way Griffey comes back on the club option for $16.5M
Sign him to a 2-3 year reasonable value contract.
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 4, 2008 22:16:29 GMT -5
Patterson is making 3mil?  ? I didnt know that |
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Post by blee2525 on Apr 4, 2008 23:09:07 GMT -5
I must be doing something wrong because if my math is correct we have 37.6 million roughly coming off the books if we dont re sign any of our free agents. You have to factor in buyouts for options ($4mil for Griffey, not sure on anybody else), plus contractual and arbitration raises for guys like Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, Phillips, and Encarnacion. I SWAG'd the numbers a few months ago, and came up with about $19mil coming off the books. |
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Post by blee2525 on Apr 4, 2008 23:16:12 GMT -5
It wasn't a sac fly, just good situational hitting. He hit it to the right side of the infield when Phillips was on 3rd, and being a ground ball, Phillips scored with ease. Oh, gotcha. I wasn't able to watch the game until the 4th inning so I just heard there was a sacrifice by Dunn and assumed. At any rate, if he can hit like that all year, he could be in the MVP race in the end of the year. It would drive up his RBI total like crazy. (assuming that he tried to hit it that way...lol) Dunn's low RBI total has nothing to do with "situational hitting." It has everything to do with the fact that he doesn't get baserunners in front of him like the top RBI guys in the NL. I ran these numbers a few weeks ago, but Dunn drives in 16.7% of the baserunners in front of him NOT counting himself on HR's (Best on the team. Phillips, for comparison, drives in 13.9%). If you hold that percentage, and add back in his 40 HR, he's tied for 5th in the NL in RBI with Beltran; ahead of Hawpe, Atkins, Wright, and C.Lee. Hell, just switch him with Phillips in the lineup, and Dunn drives in 117 runs. Here's the full numbers. Feel free to ask any questions. www.redreporter.com/2008/3/8/181319/5986 |
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 5, 2008 2:10:02 GMT -5
I must be doing something wrong because if my math is correct we have 37.6 million roughly coming off the books if we dont re sign any of our free agents. You have to factor in buyouts for options ($4mil for Griffey, not sure on anybody else), plus contractual and arbitration raises for guys like Harang, Arroyo, Cordero, Phillips, and Encarnacion. I SWAG'd the numbers a few months ago, and came up with about $19mil coming off the books. I already added in the buyout for Griff. |
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