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Post by GMBurchfield on Mar 27, 2008 12:04:54 GMT -5
Star/Duke and anyone else what do you think the best case scenario would be for some of the following?
OF BY Syzmanski (Is he even with us anymore?) RP Tyler Pelland RP Thomas Pauly (Is he ever with us anymore?) OF Chris Dickerson P Jordan Smith (Might have the name wrong. Pitched for Dayton last yr) P Rafeal Gonzolez P Travis Wood
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Post by The Duke on Mar 27, 2008 12:15:00 GMT -5
Star/Duke and anyone else what do you think the best case scenario would be for some of the following? 1. OF BY Syzmanski (Is he even with us anymore?) 2. RP Tyler Pelland 3. RP Thomas Pauly (Is he ever with us anymore?) 4. OF Chris Dickerson 5. P Jordan Smith (Might have the name wrong. Pitched for Dayton last yr) 6. P Rafeal Gonzolez 7. P Travis Wood 1. Best case: 5th OF, defensive replacement. What I think: Organizational player who will be out of the system before too long. 2. Best Case: Reliable middle relief lefty who can go mulitple innings when needed. What I think: Close to best case, has a good fastball, just needs to tighten up his offspeed a little bit. 3. Organizational player 4. Best Case: 5th OF, defenisve replacement, pinch runner. What I think: Close to best case as close as he is, but he just doesn't have the bat to be a difference maker. May as well use him for a year or two as a 5th OFer. 5. Organizational player 6. Best Case: 3rd starter, innings eater. What I think: More of a back of the rotation, long relief guy, but he has good stuff, just needs to stay in a little better shape and build his arm strength more. 7. Best case: Back of the rotation Starter. What I think: He seems to be on the Livingston path in my eyes, a 5th starter in emergency, will get moved to teh pen at some point.
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Post by starpower25 on Mar 27, 2008 14:29:06 GMT -5
Jordan Smith is a name to watch IMO, He is a converted catcher made into a SP and he has some ncie stuff. A low to mid 90's fastball and a splitter. he is working on a change up. Smith has inning eater written all over him. Look for him to surprise a few people. Look at his overall numbers in Dayton web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Jordan%20Smith&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502136He has a very nice GB/FB ratio and only gave up 8 HR 's in 133 inings. When you take into account he has not been pitching long and he did He has only been pitching for a little over 2 years and is only 22 now. I tihnk he has a shot at being the opening day starter in Sarasota to be honest. I am very high on Smith.
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Post by starpower25 on Mar 27, 2008 14:33:12 GMT -5
16 of smith's 26 starts he allowed 2 runs or less !
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Post by GMBurchfield on Mar 27, 2008 15:23:31 GMT -5
I only remember Jordan becuase of you talking about him early last year. After the begining of the year you didnt mention him so I figured he droped off.
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Post by starpower25 on Mar 27, 2008 19:56:52 GMT -5
smith had a solid 1st year of full year pro ball. he also ptiched well in 2006 in Billings leading the league with8 wins and posting a ERA of 3.02...he is progressing right on track right now. This might be the year he goes through two levels in one year. If he gets off to a nice start I could see a jump from High A to AA at some point
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Post by CBassXU on Mar 27, 2008 21:31:38 GMT -5
Jordan Smith is a name to watch IMO, He is a converted catcher made into a SP and he has some ncie stuff. A low to mid 90's fastball and a splitter. he is working on a change up. Smith has inning eater written all over him. Look for him to surprise a few people. Look at his overall numbers in Dayton web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Jordan%20Smith&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=502136He has a very nice GB/FB ratio and only gave up 8 HR 's in 133 inings. When you take into account he has not been pitching long and he did He has only been pitching for a little over 2 years and is only 22 now. I tihnk he has a shot at being the opening day starter in Sarasota to be honest. I am very high on Smith. Agreed smith could have a breakout year Also Travis Wood I think could end up making a comeback this year after two pretty bad years, I heard he is hitting low ninetys again with his fastball this spring...thats definately a good sign
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Post by The Duke on Mar 27, 2008 21:42:12 GMT -5
A lot of his number scream pretty average to me. A 1.29 WHIP, just under a 4.00 ERA, another 17 un-earned runs, and just over 5 IP per start as a 21 year old in Low A last year.
Now he has his pluses: good frame, good gb/fb tendencies, only 8 HR in his 133 IP, and none of his stats were too bad, just not overly good.
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Post by jsmith on Mar 30, 2008 14:07:12 GMT -5
for those with way more knowledge than me....a few questions.
What do you think of Sean Watson? I know he was drafted in the 2nd round..is he a starter or bullpen guy for us?
How about Scott Carroll or James Avery? Any future with the big club? Thanks in advance for the info. This board, and feeling safe to post without kids going nuts, has been wonderful.
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Post by Lark11 on Mar 30, 2008 14:47:44 GMT -5
Well, I'll let Duke or Star handle the others, but to me Watson is a clear reliever.
He was a reliever at Univ. of Tennessee and profiles better at that spot. He's got a lot of effort to his delivery, which means that he's probably better in short stints.
The Reds used him as a starter last year, but that's a tactic used by many teams to develop their best pitching prospects, regardless of where they best profile at the MLB level. It allows them to get their best pitching prospects consistent work and allows them to get regular work BETWEEN outings. It allows for better development and that's likely what the Reds were doing last year.
To me, Watson's ceiling is that of a middle reliever. He's got solid stuff, but I just don't see him as an dominant late inning reliever. But, before he can even reach that projection, he has to address a few problem areas.
He's got loose, inconsistent mechanics which he needs to refine. That should help him get a consistent release point and arm slot, which help improve his shaky control.
Overall, he's a solid arm, but I'm not expecting great things from him. Hopefully, Duke or Star can fill in some more on him and the others.
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Post by starpower25 on Mar 30, 2008 15:06:50 GMT -5
lark I agree that unless watson changes he would work best as a middle relief pitcher.
Carrol drafted last year has a nice loose arm with solid stuff. He could be moved to the pen at some point but Reds want to work him up as a starter because you can awlays change later.
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Post by jsmith on Mar 30, 2008 17:05:17 GMT -5
Thank you very much..was just curious. Why waste high draft choices on pitchers who project as middle relievers? Oh well, if they work out no more Stanton-like contracts.
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Post by The Duke on Mar 30, 2008 20:17:52 GMT -5
I think Watson's best case is being the next Scott Sullivan. Rubber armed reliever who can go 3 IP at a time when needed. Granted, that would be pretty good in my estimation. Sullivan never got his due in my opinion, and he was a great cog in the pen.
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