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Post by Azera on Sept 24, 2023 6:17:41 GMT -5
Are you really that surprised? Look at this way if they had made the playoffs they would have been smoked even worse than the pirates are shellacking them right now. I would say they choked except for the fact no one ever suspected they would have made it this far when the season began. Yeah I’m pretty surprised they blew a 9-0 lead. I was not surprised.
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Post by curbinmann on Sept 24, 2023 8:11:41 GMT -5
Yeah I’m pretty surprised they blew a 9-0 lead. I was not surprised. Well like I said in another thread, first time the Pirates won in history after being down 9 runs and they have been playing since 1882. That’s 145 years so either you are full of $hit or you are Psychic. And if I’m being completely honest I don’t believe in Psychics, soooooo
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Post by jeremiah on Sept 24, 2023 11:43:08 GMT -5
Unreal
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Post by curbinmann on Sept 24, 2023 14:12:45 GMT -5
gonna follow up that meltdown with being no hit by the worst statistical pitcher in baseball. Seriously, I would hit .370 against him.
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Post by azera on Sept 24, 2023 15:04:12 GMT -5
Well like I said in another thread, first time the Pirates won in history after being down 9 runs and they have been playing since 1882. That’s 145 years so either you are full of $hit or you are Psychic. And if I’m being completely honest I don’t believe in Psychics, soooooo As I said I wasn’t surprised because statistically the reds have one of the most disastrous bullpens in the major leagues. They may not have blown nine runs leads but they have blown many a game. If you take the games the bullpen has blown they would comfortably be in a wild card spot.
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Post by curbinmann on Sept 24, 2023 15:15:42 GMT -5
Well like I said in another thread, first time the Pirates won in history after being down 9 runs and they have been playing since 1882. That’s 145 years so either you are full of $hit or you are Psychic. And if I’m being completely honest I don’t believe in Psychics, soooooo As I said I wasn’t surprised because statistically the reds have one of the most disastrous bullpens in the major leagues. They may not have blown nine runs leads but they have blown many a game. If you take the games the bullpen has blown they would comfortably be in a wild card spot. And if you take the games they have saved, kept up in, flat out won and take them away we would have lost 110 games. Statistically they aren’t even in the bottom half of the MLB. I get the frustration of the last few games but what you are saying isn’t accurate. In fact it’s not close to being accurate. Now I’m not saying the bullpen doesn’t need a few more arms. But there are 2 reasons the Reds were in the race as long as they were. Reason 2 the success of the rookies Reason 1 the bullpen
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Post by reds541 on Sept 24, 2023 15:23:37 GMT -5
Lol they are going to blow a 9-0 lead. Hand the bullpen a 9-1 lead and they can’t hold the lead. There is not one member of the bullpen that I trust at this point. Our All-Star reliever has gotten lit up like a Christmas tree this week.
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Post by jeremiah on Sept 24, 2023 15:32:24 GMT -5
Our bullpen is pretty good overall. Could be they're just overworked.
Either way, the win today was special. Votto's possible last at bat at home, basehit up the middle.
To Votto's career and legacy 👏🎉 may he be our next HoF
Over 2M in attendance this year. Def a ⚾ town
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Post by curbinmann on Sept 24, 2023 17:30:45 GMT -5
Lol they are going to blow a 9-0 lead. Hand the bullpen a 9-1 lead and they can’t hold the lead. There is not one member of the bullpen that I trust at this point. Our All-Star reliever has gotten lit up like a Christmas tree this week. I don’t disagree with this, but they are so overworked. Most innings pitched in baseball. 4 or 5 or more guys everyday. Injuries led to a lot of the overuse. But Bell has to learn if a guy gets through an inning with 8 pitches and has his A game throw him a second inning. He always pulls guys to early. He pulls the starters at first sign of trouble. However without the bullpen overachieving this year, we wouldn’t have won 70 games. You don’t win 35 1 run games without the bullpen usually doing their job.
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Post by reds541 on Sept 25, 2023 18:54:48 GMT -5
There is not one member of the bullpen that I trust at this point. Our All-Star reliever has gotten lit up like a Christmas tree this week. I don’t disagree with this, but they are so overworked. Most innings pitched in baseball. 4 or 5 or more guys everyday. Injuries led to a lot of the overuse. But Bell has to learn if a guy gets through an inning with 8 pitches and has his A game throw him a second inning. He always pulls guys to early. He pulls the starters at first sign of trouble. However without the bullpen overachieving this year, we wouldn’t have won 70 games. You don’t win 35 1 run games without the bullpen usually doing their job. I agree 100% that Bell has mismanaged the bullpen. He's done it historically. Also, we've got to get starters beyond 5 innings without throwing 100 pitches.
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Post by azera on Sept 26, 2023 18:45:08 GMT -5
Seems like almost everyone on the team choked and gagged at the same time.
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Post by reds541 on Sept 26, 2023 20:34:14 GMT -5
Lights out job by the bullpen today.
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Post by reds541 on Sept 26, 2023 20:36:06 GMT -5
BTW, where is Dustrated...um...after he who shall not be named's performance today?
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Post by azera on Sept 27, 2023 20:20:35 GMT -5
Seems like almost everyone on the team choked and gagged at the same time. The choke continues. The reds would have been wiped out in the playoffs. Now we don’t have to worry about that.
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Post by curbinmann on Sept 27, 2023 20:44:53 GMT -5
Seems like almost everyone on the team choked and gagged at the same time. The choke continues. The reds would have been wiped out in the playoffs. Now we don’t have to worry about that. No one with half a brain was worried about it anyway. They far exceeded expectations this year. I said in another post a few weeks ago, this team is on a very similar trajectory as the Orioles. If memory serves 2021 Orioles lost 110 games. 2022 Orioles Won 85 games and barely missed playoffs but exceeded all expectations. 2023 Orioles have best record in The American League. Still have a ton of Ammo in the minors. The Reds are a year behind the 2022 Reds lost 100 games 2023 reds will win around 85 games barely miss the playoffs and have exceeded all expectations. The 2024 reds remain to be seen but I am excited for their chances. Hopefully Nick Krall is as good at adding a few pieces as he is at making trades. It’s a different skill set though and ownership might put him in a straitjacket. However I’m as happy as I’ve been since 2010 with the potential the reds have moving forward. The so called draft experts have said the Reds far and away had the best draft of 2023, the minors even with all the graduations are still stacked. Im sure we will have more discussions with off season moves once they happen, but right now I’m content, and anyone who isn’t a mental midget should feel the same.
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