Is Robert Stephenson good again?

[schellis]

Jul 28, 2017 9:45:34 GMT -5 crashdavissports said:

Jul 27, 2017 22:57:08 GMT -5 Lark11 said:

7 walks later, the answer seems to be....no.

HAHA. My point exactly. I am just done with Stephenson. Have been for a while. He just is not getting any better really. He was no Chris Gruler 1st round pick, but he isn't turning any corner either, just getting older.

I am ready to move on DFA him or see if you can find someone else who thinks a change of scenery is what he needs and get anything in return for him.

What is scary is since Larkin you could make a excellent case that Bruce has been the Reds best 1st round pick. (don't really count the last two or three years since they are still developing)

86--Scott Scudder
87--Jack Armstrong
88--Nobody
89--Scott Bryant
90--Dan Wilson (very solid career but with Mariners)
91--Pokey Reese
92--Chad Mottola (Should have been Jeter)
93--Pat Watkins
94--CJ Nitkowski
95--Nobody
96--Matt McClendon and Johnny Oliver
97--Brandon Larson
98--Austin Kearns
99--Ty Howington
00--Dustin MOseley and David Espinosa
01--Jeremy Sowers
02--Mark Scharmek and Chris Gruler
03--Ryan Wagner
04--Homer Bailey
05--Jay Bruce
06--Drew Stubbs
07--Devin Mesoraco, Todd Frazier, and Kyle Lotzkar
08--Yonder Alonso
09--Mike Leake and Brian Boxberger (I think Leake could claim this title as well)
10--Yasmani Grandal
11--Robert Stephenson
12--Nick Travieso, Jesse Winker, Jeff Gelalich
13--Phil Ervin, Michael Lorenzen
14--NJick Howard, Alex Blandino
15--Tyler Stephenson
16--Nick Senzel, Tyler Trammell
17--Hunter Greene, Jeter Downs

[redskoolaiddrinker]

Jul 28, 2017 9:45:34 GMT -5 crashdavissports said:

Jul 27, 2017 22:57:08 GMT -5 Lark11 said:

7 walks later, the answer seems to be....no.

HAHA. My point exactly. I am just done with Stephenson. Have been for a while. He just is not getting any better really. He was no Chris Gruler 1st round pick, but he isn't turning any corner either, just getting older.

I am ready to move on DFA him or see if you can find someone else who thinks a change of scenery is what he needs and get anything in return for him.

Too many times pitchers have been given up on too soon. Why DFA him? To bring up someone else with less potential who also sucks? (Mahle should be held back for service time) At least he's shown some signs lately. Might as well ride it out with him for the rest of the year and hope all this losing pays off in the form of a great pick in the draft. Then in the offseason see if he can do a better job of repeating his delivery, which is what price said he had trouble with in his last start. We're not winning the World Series next year and no one is gonna bet their house that we're making the playoffs either. Keep throwing him out there as long as he's trying to get better. Would rather see him out there than an Adleman at this point.

[crashdavissports]

Jul 28, 2017 12:38:56 GMT -5 redskoolaiddrinker said:

Jul 28, 2017 9:45:34 GMT -5 crashdavissports said:

HAHA. My point exactly. I am just done with Stephenson. Have been for a while. He just is not getting any better really. He was no Chris Gruler 1st round pick, but he isn't turning any corner either, just getting older.

I am ready to move on DFA him or see if you can find someone else who thinks a change of scenery is what he needs and get anything in return for him.

Too many times pitchers have been given up on too soon. Why DFA him? To bring up someone else with less potential who also sucks? (Mahle should be held back for service time) At least he's shown some signs lately. Might as well ride it out with him for the rest of the year and hope all this losing pays off in the form of a great pick in the draft. Then in the offseason see if he can do a better job of repeating his delivery, which is what price said he had trouble with in his last start. We're not winning the World Series next year and no one is gonna bet their house that we're making the playoffs either. Keep throwing him out there as long as he's trying to get better. Would rather see him out there than an Adleman at this point.

Fine, don't DFA him then. Just keep him in the minors where he belongs, out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, he has a good arm, but he has no control. Hasn't got any better either. Just an occasional short streak of control that gets everyone hopes up and something to hold on to during his next 8 games of control problems.

I am done with him.

[crashdavissports]

Jul 28, 2017 11:57:04 GMT -5 schellis said:

Jul 28, 2017 9:45:34 GMT -5 crashdavissports said:

HAHA. My point exactly. I am just done with Stephenson. Have been for a while. He just is not getting any better really. He was no Chris Gruler 1st round pick, but he isn't turning any corner either, just getting older.

I am ready to move on DFA him or see if you can find someone else who thinks a change of scenery is what he needs and get anything in return for him.

What is scary is since Larkin you could make a excellent case that Bruce has been the Reds best 1st round pick. (don't really count the last two or three years since they are still developing)

86--Scott Scudder
87--Jack Armstrong
88--Nobody
89--Scott Bryant
90--Dan Wilson (very solid career but with Mariners)
91--Pokey Reese
92--Chad Mottola (Should have been Jeter)
93--Pat Watkins
94--CJ Nitkowski
95--Nobody
96--Matt McClendon and Johnny Oliver
97--Brandon Larson
98--Austin Kearns
99--Ty Howington
00--Dustin MOseley and David Espinosa
01--Jeremy Sowers
02--Mark Scharmek and Chris Gruler
03--Ryan Wagner
04--Homer Bailey
05--Jay Bruce
06--Drew Stubbs
07--Devin Mesoraco, Todd Frazier, and Kyle Lotzkar
08--Yonder Alonso
09--Mike Leake and Brian Boxberger (I think Leake could claim this title as well)
10--Yasmani Grandal
11--Robert Stephenson
12--Nick Travieso, Jesse Winker, Jeff Gelalich
13--Phil Ervin, Michael Lorenzen
14--NJick Howard, Alex Blandino
15--Tyler Stephenson
16--Nick Senzel, Tyler Trammell
17--Hunter Greene, Jeter Downs

86' - 02' was horrendous. No wonder we sucked from 1996 to 2005 (with the exception of 99').

[redskoolaiddrinker]

Jul 28, 2017 13:09:48 GMT -5 crashdavissports said:

Jul 28, 2017 12:38:56 GMT -5 redskoolaiddrinker said:

Too many times pitchers have been given up on too soon. Why DFA him? To bring up someone else with less potential who also sucks? (Mahle should be held back for service time) At least he's shown some signs lately. Might as well ride it out with him for the rest of the year and hope all this losing pays off in the form of a great pick in the draft. Then in the offseason see if he can do a better job of repeating his delivery, which is what price said he had trouble with in his last start. We're not winning the World Series next year and no one is gonna bet their house that we're making the playoffs either. Keep throwing him out there as long as he's trying to get better. Would rather see him out there than an Adleman at this point.

Fine, don't DFA him then. Just keep him in the minors where he belongs, out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, he has a good arm, but he has no control. Hasn't got any better either. Just an occasional short streak of control that gets everyone hopes up and something to hold on to during his next 8 games of control problems.

I am done with him.

I had heard that Garrett must stay in the majors next year on the 25 man roster. Any idea if Stephenson is the same?