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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 11:50:05 GMT -5
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Post by Lark11 on Oct 24, 2014 12:10:24 GMT -5
Crazy. Can Evan Longoria leave, too?  |
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Post by redsfanman on Oct 24, 2014 13:10:26 GMT -5
I wonder what Maddon's immediately plans really are. Most teams, except the Twins and now the Rays, I believe, have basically settled who'll be managing them to start 2015. Several teams just recently completed their managerial searches. Plenty of teams are followed by fans who will want their team's manager immediately fired and replaced by Joe Maddon (Price/Reds fans), although that happening seems really unrealistic.
Maybe he'll just relax through spring training, and wait for a seemingly World Series bound team to bomb in April, fire a manager, and bring him in to fix things.
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Post by Lark11 on Oct 24, 2014 13:12:08 GMT -5
Jeff Passan @jeffpassan 8m8 minutes ago
Dodgers are indeed out on Joe Maddon, as @ken_Rosenthal said. Not happening. Period. Cubs and Mets considered by friends to be favorites.
Jeff Passan @jeffpassan 5m5 minutes ago
One Maddon confidante believes he wouldn't have opted out without a sense of what the market would bear. And he wants to go big market.
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Post by redsfanman on Oct 24, 2014 14:00:01 GMT -5
Rick Renteria only started managing the Cubs a year ago, and it seems unlikely that he'll be fired, doesn't it? Did they hire with the intention of firing him after one year to continue the Cubs' history of managerial musical chairs?
And the Mets? You're really going to leave the Rays for the perennial loser Mets? Ugh.
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Post by Lark11 on Oct 24, 2014 14:16:51 GMT -5
Rick Renteria only started managing the Cubs a year ago, and it seems unlikely that he'll be fired, doesn't it? Did they hire with the intention of firing him after one year to continue the Cubs' history of managerial musical chairs? And the Mets? You're really going to leave the Rays for the perennial loser Mets? Ugh. I still think he's gotta end up with the Dodgers. And soon. |
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Post by redsfanman on Oct 24, 2014 14:23:38 GMT -5
Rick Renteria only started managing the Cubs a year ago, and it seems unlikely that he'll be fired, doesn't it? Did they hire with the intention of firing him after one year to continue the Cubs' history of managerial musical chairs? And the Mets? You're really going to leave the Rays for the perennial loser Mets? Ugh. I still think he's gotta end up with the Dodgers. And soon. Despite the link you just posted, saying the exact opposite? Hmmm. |
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Post by redsfanman on Oct 24, 2014 14:31:49 GMT -5
www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/10/joe-maddon-opts-out-of-contract-with-rays.htmlJoe Maddon Opts Out Of Contract With Rays By Jeff Todd [October 24, 2014 at 11:27am CDT] 12:29pm: Maddon’s agent, Alan Nero, tells Topkin (Twitter link) that he expects Maddon will manage a team in 2015. Friedman tells Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times (via Twitter) that his new team, the Dodgers, will not be among the suitors regardless of Maddon’s newfound availability.On Tampa’s end, team president Matt Silverman says that the team will pursue a full search for a replacement, considering internal and external candidates, per Topkin (via Twitter). 11:27am: Rays manager Joe Maddon has opted out of his contract with the Rays and will be leaving the team, Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports on Twitter. The move comes as a major surprise, as Maddon had said recently that he expected to remain in Tampa. Maddon represents the second key departure to hit the Rays in recent weeks, as the team lost long-time GM Andrew Friedman to the Dodgers. Indeed, the opt-out clause vested with Friedman’s departure, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets. Speculation immediately began that Maddon could follow Friedman to Los Angeles, though all involved shot that down quickly. Indeed, the Dodgers have stated publicly that they intend to keep skipper Don Mattingly in place heading into 2015. The only open managerial seat at present is the Twins’, though Minnesota appears to be well down the line in its search. In a statement confirming the news, Rays owner Stuart Sternberg says that the club “tried diligently and aggressively to sign [Maddon] to a third contract extension prior to his decision.” Sternberg added that Maddon, whose deal ran through 2015, has “enabled himself to explore opportunities throughout Major League Baseball.” Maddon had been at the helm of the Rays for nine seasons, during which he established a reputation as one of the game’s most innovative and forward-thinking skippers. After two years in the basement, Maddon helped to oversee a stunning rise to prominence in Tampa. He ran the dugout for two AL East crowns and four total postseason appearances. Despite that run of success, Maddon tells Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (links to Twitter) that a combination of financial disagreement and his own curiosity to seek out a new opportunity led to the move. Though a new deal was discussed, Maddon says that the sides “were still too far apart.” Maddon says he hopes to manage next year but has nothing set up at this point. --------------------------------- I'm not saying that Maddon won't end up with the Dodgers, just all the (limited) information available so far specifically says they're retaining Don Mattingly. In my opinion Maddon leaving for the Dodgers makes sense, but leaving for the Cubs or Mets... not so much.
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Post by Lark11 on Oct 24, 2014 14:39:48 GMT -5
I still think he's gotta end up with the Dodgers. And soon. Despite the link you just posted, saying the exact opposite? Hmmm. A couple of weeks ago, Joe Maddon said he had no intention of leaving the Rays. And, with a manager under contract already, the Dodgers can't come right out and say that they want Maddon. Maybe the Dodgers are being true, or maybe they are waiting until they can cut a deal behind the scenes. Just seems very strange that Maddon would let go of the branch he was swinging on unless he had his other hand on a new branch. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 15:42:09 GMT -5
If Maddon enters the 2015 season without a gig can you imagine the amount of pressure Don Mattingly will feel to get off to a good start? If they were to stumble even a little bit out of the gate he'd be a goner.
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Post by kinsm on Oct 24, 2014 16:54:45 GMT -5
Despite the link you just posted, saying the exact opposite? Hmmm. A couple of weeks ago, Joe Maddon said he had no intention of leaving the Rays. And, with a manager under contract already, the Dodgers can't come right out and say that they want Maddon. Maybe the Dodgers are being true, or maybe they are waiting until they can cut a deal behind the scenes. Just seems very strange that Maddon would let go of the branch he was swinging on unless he had his other hand on a new branch. Maddon said he didn't even know he had an opt out until he was told. He's seeking 5 years at 25 million. If he winds up with the Dodgers, it'd probably be a year from now. |
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Post by kinsm on Oct 24, 2014 16:55:56 GMT -5
If he goes to Chicago, TB or MIN should immediately hire Renteria.
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Post by kinsm on Oct 24, 2014 17:13:45 GMT -5
Friedman and the Dodgers have issued a statement backing Don Mattingly as their manager, definitively stating that Mattingly will manage the Dodgers next season.
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Post by schellis on Oct 24, 2014 20:05:50 GMT -5
Friedman and the Dodgers have issued a statement backing Don Mattingly as their manager, definitively stating that Mattingly will manage the Dodgers next season. The dreaded vote of confidence. I think the Dodgers will keep tabs on Madden this off season, see what he is offered and if it isn't to extreme I could see them topping it to bring him to LA. I don't believe they will play their cards and allow themselves to be used to drive up his price. It is also a very bad idea to publicly state that you are going after a manager when you have a solid one already who has been at the helm for a number of years leading to a gradual improvement each year. IF you publicly state you want Madden and don't get him that isn't going to show Mattingly that you had a lot of confidence in him. And usually when that is the case it doesn't end well. Personally I see Madden going to the Cubs. History of working with kids and getting the most out of them and a desire to work for a large market team. Plus there is the immortality benefit if he leads them to a World Series win much like Francona with the Sox. |
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Post by kramer1 on Oct 25, 2014 16:57:27 GMT -5
Maddon to the White Sox? Why not?
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