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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 1, 2008 10:32:57 GMT -5
Last week when I read the report on Christian Friedrich I feel in love with the idea of gettin the lefty.
Now it's like no matter who we draft if it isnt Christian Friedrich it is going to suck.
DAMN YOU WHOEVER POSTED IT (cant remember) YOU PROBALEY JUST BROKE MY HEART
ps: Giants are talking about taking pitching with the 5th pick and MLBTR said Christian is a possible outcome.
ps: I have decided to join the LOS-FC ( Linceum over Stubbs-Fan Club ) Harang, Arroyo, Linceum, Cueto, Volquez would have been nice this year. However I am not sure we would have Volquez if we had Linceum. So maybe instead of compairing Hamilton to Volquez and Linceum to Stubbs we should really compare Volquez to Linceum for this year and the future and Stubbs to Hamilton.
We draft Linceum we keep Hamilton
We took Stubbs and got Volquez
Just a thought or like Lark would say my .02 cents
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Post by The Duke on Apr 1, 2008 10:42:57 GMT -5
I was the one who posted about Friedrich, and I have been on his bandwagon prtty much ever since we were settled on the 7th pick. I'd still take Tim Beckham over Friedrich and maybe Alvarez, but thats about it.
As for Stubbs vs Lincenum, would I have taken Lincenum in hindsight? Sure, but i'm not going to mope about it for years after it happened though.
Lincenum, never happened. Hamilton, gone. Time to move on.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 1, 2008 13:41:01 GMT -5
Last week when I read the report on Christian Friedrich I feel in love with the idea of gettin the lefty. Now it's like no matter who we draft if it isnt Christian Friedrich it is going to suck. DAMN YOU WHOEVER POSTED IT (cant remember) YOU PROBALEY JUST BROKE MY HEART ps: Giants are talking about taking pitching with the 5th pick and MLBTR said Christian is a possible outcome. ps: I have decided to join the LOS-FC ( Linceum over Stubbs-Fan Club ) Harang, Arroyo, Linceum, Cueto, Volquez would have been nice this year. However I am not sure we would have Volquez if we had Linceum. So maybe instead of compairing Hamilton to Volquez and Linceum to Stubbs we should really compare Volquez to Linceum for this year and the future and Stubbs to Hamilton. We draft Linceum we keep Hamilton We took Stubbs and got Volquez Just a thought or like Lark would say my .02 cents Well, I certainly agree on that one. I wanted Lincecum before, during, and after the draft. It was very disappointing that we went another direction, but I'm ALMOST over it. At the very least, I've gained an appreciation for Drew Stubbs. Still, it seems pretty clear it was the wrong pick. And, I tend to agree with you on Hamilton. If we had Lincecum, maybe we would've kept Hamilton. That said, for reasons with which I disagree, the Reds seemed hellbent on trading Hamilton away. I don't think it had much to do with what specifically they got in return, but rather just moving him for some kind of value. To me, it was foolish, because I think in terms of pure skill, A-Rod (and maybe David Wright) is the only player with more skill than Hamilton. He is a true physical freak and pairing him with Jay Bruce would've made the Reds very solid, for a long, long time. As for the Giants, they should be looking for everyday players. I understand and usually agree with going with the best player on the board, but the Giants have 1 impact position player in Angel Villalona. They need bats and a lot of them. They drafted two pitchers with their first 2 picks last year, so they need to get a heavy hitter. There is still a long way to go before the draft, so all of these prospects will be jockeying for position right up until the last moment. So, locking in on one of these guys now probably isn't the best way for the Reds to go. |
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Post by The Duke on Apr 1, 2008 13:55:32 GMT -5
As an organization, they absolutely shouldn't lock in on one player, because unless you're picking #1, there is no guarantee your guy is there. The Reds need to have at least a 1-7 wishlist that has been thoroughly scouted on draft day, so that worse case scenario, they get #7 on that list and they know everything they need too about him. Pre-draft they should be closely monitoring about 20 guys and start narrowing it down.
And if you want to get technical the Reds pitching staff could have looked like this with 20/20 hindsight
Aaron Harang
Bronson Arroyo
Tim Lincenum
Johnny Cueto
Joba Chamebrlain (he was a sandwich pick 36th overall I think)
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 1, 2008 14:01:19 GMT -5
As an organization, they absolutely shouldn't lock in on one player, because unless you're picking #1, there is no guarantee your guy is there. The Reds need to have at least a 1-7 wishlist that has been thoroughly scouted on draft day, so that worse case scenario, they get #7 on that list and they know everything they need too about him. Pre-draft they should be closely monitoring about 20 guys and start narrowing it down. And if you want to get technical the Reds pitching staff could have looked like this with 20/20 hindsight Aaron Harang Bronson Arroyo Tim Lincenum Johnny Cueto Joba Chamebrlain (he was a sandwich pick 36th overall I think) Actually, I don't need hindsight, because Lincecum is the guy I wanted using foresight. As for Joba and Ian, I was actually high on both in that draft class. Kennedy is the type of pitcher I like and I saw Joba with the Cornhuskers. Joba was impressive, but I never thought he'd be as dominant as he was last year. Still, he may profile better as a shutdown closer for the Yanks, where he can maximize his stuff by working in short spurts. At the time, Kennedy had performance questions because he took a step back at the college level that year and Joba had questions about his health. I was actually hoping Ian would slip out of the 1st round where the Reds could grab him. I didn't think Joba would fall that far. Regardless, the Yanks did very well getting both. Another pitcher that I like this year is Tim Murphy from UCLA. He's a lefty with a very nice, tight curveball. He's not an option early in the 1st round, but the Reds may get a shot at him in the later rounds. |
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Post by The Duke on Apr 1, 2008 14:27:38 GMT -5
I pretty much only pay attention to the top of the draft as I don't follow HS baseball at all (other than top draft prospect reviews by places like BA), and barely follow college baseball. So other than our 7th overall pick, I can't really predict much, but I know the Reds don't pick again until sometime in the 80's so they better make #7 overall a good one.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 1, 2008 14:31:24 GMT -5
I pretty much only pay attention to the top of the draft as I don't follow HS baseball at all (other than top draft prospect reviews by places like BA), and barely follow college baseball. So other than our 7th overall pick, I can't really predict much, but I know the Reds don't pick again until sometime in the 80's so they better make #7 overall a good one. Yeah, they forfeited their 2nd round pick to sign Coco Cordero and unfortunately I don't think we have any compensatory picks this year. So, it's the #7 pick and then a whole lot of talent flying off the board until we pick again. We'll have to consider Juan Duran our 2nd round pick this year, which should help alleviate some of the sting of not having a second round selection. |
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Post by The Duke on Apr 1, 2008 15:30:29 GMT -5
Duran is nice, but then again, we have to wait about 5 years minimum before he might even touch the majors, and even 2 years from now until i'll be able to see him play and get excited about the talent.
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 1, 2008 16:31:57 GMT -5
no Kyle didnt
ur not BipRoperts with a new name are you? lol have to ask
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Post by bobroberts on Apr 1, 2008 18:28:36 GMT -5
no Kyle didnt ur not BipRoperts with a new name are you? lol have to ask You're right, I forgot the reds traded Loshe for Maloney |
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 1, 2008 20:35:06 GMT -5
lol i forgot too
I was going off the fact Lohse signed after the deadline for compensation to be awared and also the fact that he wasnt awared a type.
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