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Post by flash on May 17, 2013 8:03:20 GMT -5
I took aook at at the Reds prospect lists and the minor league stats and am somewhat confused
Perez isn't on it even though he is hitting a ton at Louisvile. Ditto Smith in Pensacola.
Same thing on the mound with Reynolds and DePino.
What's up with that?
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Post by The Duke on May 17, 2013 8:48:35 GMT -5
Perez is 28 and this isn't his first go around in Louisville. The lists were made before this season and before this season Perez hasn't done much.
Bryson Smith doesn't have much power (Pensacola is hitter friendly) and hasn't walked all that much. He can put bat on ball and is showing a little more power this year, but even his upside may only be as a reserve outfielder.
He and Perez can be useful pieces as bench bats possibly, but most prospect rankings focus a lot on upside, of which those two don't have much of.
Reynolds and Pino are older as well, and the scouting reports don't talk much about upside either. IIRC, Reynolds use to be a notable prospect, but struggled hard in his only shot. As much as I like them, prospect lists are to be taken with a grain of salt, and are not infallible. Ryan Hanigan was never regarded much. Sometimes all it takes is a minor adjustment and opportunity and a guy can surprise people, but that is the exception, not the rule.
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Post by flash on May 17, 2013 21:14:37 GMT -5
Duke I respect you because you because you seem to know alot, but in 2009 Perez hit .429. In 2010 he hit .322. He slumped in 2011 hitting just .252. In 2012 he hit .301. Now he is hitting .315. That doesn't sound like a guy who has never done anything. I checked his fielding stats also. He has struggled in RF, but in center and left field he has made 2 errors his entire career. He has never made an error in center field. He has played about the same number of games at all three outfield positions.
Pensacola may be a hitters league, but then why is Lamarre, a top prospect batting .260 then. Smith has a .316 minor league average. The new pitchers did come from elsewhere. There performances have been awful good.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 21:38:58 GMT -5
Duke I respect you because you because you seem to know alot, but in 2009 Perez hit .429. In 2010 he hit .322. He slumped in 2011 hitting just .252. In 2012 he hit .301. Now he is hitting .315. That doesn't sound like a guy who has never done anything. I checked his fielding stats also. He has struggled in RF, but in center and left field he has made 2 errors his entire career. He has never made an error in center field. He has played about the same number of games at all three outfield positions. Pensacola may be a hitters league, but then why is Lamarre, a top prospect batting .260 then. Smith has a .316 minor league average. The new pitchers did come from elsewhere. There performances have been awful good. Perez is the new Danny Dorn. Solid player that gets no respect within the organization. You are quite right about Perez as an offensive player, he's very accomplished. Up until this year(and it's early) he's never displayed a lot of power. He has seemingly picked that up some. Defensively he's more than solid. He led the International League in OF assists last season with 15 and has at least two this year that I am aware of(Defensive stats are hard to come by) |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 10:46:16 GMT -5
I took aook at at the Reds prospect lists and the minor league stats and am somewhat confused Perez isn't on it even though he is hitting a ton at Louisvile. Ditto Smith in Pensacola. Same thing on the mound with Reynolds and DePino. What's up with that? On the two pitchers mentioned, I assume first of all that you are referring to Yohan Pino as I don't know of a DePino in the system. Both of those guys were at one time highly touted prospects. Pino fell off the radar after being traded to Cleveland a few years back. Reynolds was actually the #2 overall pick in the 2007 draft. Quickly shot up through the Rockies chain and had very limited success at the MLB level. Both of these guys would appear to be benefiting from working with Ted Power. In the case of Reynolds he may well never get a chance with the Reds because he's strictly a starter and he's blocked not only by the 5 guys in Cincy, but also Cingrani and probably Gallaraga(who's also pitching well). Just based on what success he's had so far this season he might have had something of a "Vogelsong-esque" awakening though. Who knows? I bet he could pitch in the majors right now for the Astros or Marlins. Interesting guy though. #2 pick out of Stanford. No doubt a quality arm, just a matter of if he's capable of recapturing what he once had. Pino has also pitched well both as a spot starter and as a reliever. He's been serving as the Bats closer recently. Bullpen spots seem to be more volatile most years so it wouldn't be out of the question to imagine he could get an opportunity this year if he continues to perform. |
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