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Post by Brushback on Nov 30, 2023 15:09:02 GMT -5
Impressed with the signings of Emilio Paban and Nick Martinez. Now hot rumor about Reds going after Shane Bieber. Was a bit concerned that Reds wouldn't go after quality pitching in offseason.
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Post by scottscudder on Dec 7, 2023 22:19:34 GMT -5
I would really like to see the Reds add a solid starting pitcher. Doesn't to be a #1, but hopefully a #2 or #3 who can give the Reds some innings. Maybe Stroman? He's no longer a #1 but is still a quality pitcher. Not sure what kind of contract he'd be looking for.
Bieber seems like an injury risk.
What are people's thoughts on Imanaga?
Most of all, I don't want to see the Reds mortgage the future for anyone. Hoping they go the free agency route and just spend money and keep their young talent.
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Post by schellis on Dec 8, 2023 9:34:33 GMT -5
I would really like to see the Reds add a solid starting pitcher. Doesn't to be a #1, but hopefully a #2 or #3 who can give the Reds some innings. Maybe Stroman? He's no longer a #1 but is still a quality pitcher. Not sure what kind of contract he'd be looking for. Bieber seems like an injury risk. What are people's thoughts on Imanaga? Most of all, I don't want to see the Reds mortgage the future for anyone. Hoping they go the free agency route and just spend money and keep their young talent. Stroman was never a 1. What he is though is a very good ground ball pitcher who likely falls around what Rodriguez just signed for. I think he'd be a solid signing for the Reds. Trade wise Cease to much talent wise, though if Sox get reasonable there is something there. I think he's best case for Reds if they could get him for around half what Sox currently want. Glasnow and Bieber to injury prone. Glasnow very talented but he hasn't shown he can pitch for more then a half season. Bieber closer to a mid rotation arm but I would be fine acquiring him Marlins have a few that have some years of control left, I think that is also a avenue the Reds should explore. Though those arms are fairly similar to what the Reds are already running out there, and I would prefer they had a vet that has someone of a more stable track record. |
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Post by scottscudder on Dec 10, 2023 19:32:03 GMT -5
I would really like to see the Reds add a solid starting pitcher. Doesn't to be a #1, but hopefully a #2 or #3 who can give the Reds some innings. Maybe Stroman? He's no longer a #1 but is still a quality pitcher. Not sure what kind of contract he'd be looking for. Bieber seems like an injury risk. What are people's thoughts on Imanaga? Most of all, I don't want to see the Reds mortgage the future for anyone. Hoping they go the free agency route and just spend money and keep their young talent. Stroman was never a 1. What he is though is a very good ground ball pitcher who likely falls around what Rodriguez just signed for. I think he'd be a solid signing for the Reds. Trade wise Cease to much talent wise, though if Sox get reasonable there is something there. I think he's best case for Reds if they could get him for around half what Sox currently want. Glasnow and Bieber to injury prone. Glasnow very talented but he hasn't shown he can pitch for more then a half season. Bieber closer to a mid rotation arm but I would be fine acquiring him Marlins have a few that have some years of control left, I think that is also a avenue the Reds should explore. Though those arms are fairly similar to what the Reds are already running out there, and I would prefer they had a vet that has someone of a more stable track record. What do you think about Imanaga? Too much expense? Too much risk? |
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Post by schellis on Dec 11, 2023 12:04:12 GMT -5
Stroman was never a 1. What he is though is a very good ground ball pitcher who likely falls around what Rodriguez just signed for. I think he'd be a solid signing for the Reds. Trade wise Cease to much talent wise, though if Sox get reasonable there is something there. I think he's best case for Reds if they could get him for around half what Sox currently want. Glasnow and Bieber to injury prone. Glasnow very talented but he hasn't shown he can pitch for more then a half season. Bieber closer to a mid rotation arm but I would be fine acquiring him Marlins have a few that have some years of control left, I think that is also a avenue the Reds should explore. Though those arms are fairly similar to what the Reds are already running out there, and I would prefer they had a vet that has someone of a more stable track record. What do you think about Imanaga? Too much expense? Too much risk? I think he'll be a solid starter, but will likely cost more then the Reds should be paying for someone that doesn't have any major league track record. I don't see him being as good as Senga last year. Mid-3.00 ERA, around a k per inning. I think similar to Stroman or Rodriguez. but in a vacuum I rather sign the guy that has had success at the MLB level. |
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Post by scottscudder on Dec 11, 2023 17:34:06 GMT -5
What do you think about Imanaga? Too much expense? Too much risk? I think he'll be a solid starter, but will likely cost more then the Reds should be paying for someone that doesn't have any major league track record. I don't see him being as good as Senga last year. Mid-3.00 ERA, around a k per inning. I think similar to Stroman or Rodriguez. but in a vacuum I rather sign the guy that has had success at the MLB level. Yeah, there is definitely the lack of an MLB track record with Imanaga, so that's a risk. I have been a little concerned about Stroman's fit in the Reds young clubhouse. Seemed like there were some on field antics with him this past season. Not sure if this should be a concern or not. I really wanted to see Gray return to Cincy. One of my favorite pitchers. And I think the Reds should also take a flyer on Mahle for the longer term. |
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Post by gabb on Dec 12, 2023 22:26:19 GMT -5
Could they sign Woodruff to a cheap deal since he won’t be pitching in ‘24? Something like a 2 year, and then give him a 3rd year option in case he performs well. Perhaps, then it could allow them to sign a veteran like Kershaw or Stroman to a 1 yr deal. Then let Woodruff piggy back off them in ‘25 (and possibly ‘26).
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Post by schellis on Dec 13, 2023 9:13:49 GMT -5
Could they sign Woodruff to a cheap deal since he won’t be pitching in ‘24? Something like a 2 year, and then give him a 3rd year option in case he performs well. Perhaps, then it could allow them to sign a veteran like Kershaw or Stroman to a 1 yr deal. Then let Woodruff piggy back off them in ‘25 (and possibly ‘26). Woodruff wouldn't give the third year. To many teams will be fine with a two year make good deal. Third year wouldn't be agreed upon by both parties. Would either be to low after a prove health year, or be to high to risk him not getting back. What would make it comfortable for one side would ruin it for the other. Kershaw isn't signing in Cincinnati. If not Dodgers I think he retires. Stroman will get multiple years. One year deal doesn't really do anything for him at this point. That being said he has heavy ground ball tendencies and strikes out a fair clip. When healthy he's been a solid pitcher one that I think fits the Reds park and payroll. |
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Post by IndiaCaravan on Dec 21, 2023 1:23:02 GMT -5
I'm surprised how little it took the Mets to get Adrian Hauser from the Brewers. We could have given up a better prospect than Crow and not taken Taylor (to save the roster spot and money). That's assuming the Brewers would have traded him in the division. While he doesn't have the upside, his production was basically that of Hunter Greene's in a similar amount of innings. He had a FIP of 3.99, which would have bested all of our starters. Would have been a solid 1-year rental for a swingman.
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Post by The Duke on Jan 11, 2024 9:03:18 GMT -5
We'll see what we get with Frankie Montas. If he's actually healthy (and stays that way for at least this one year deal) then maybe he can be a valuable piece this year.
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Post by The Duke on Jan 11, 2024 16:35:35 GMT -5
Added another veteran lefty reliever today in Brent Sutter. 1 yr. $2.5 mil, 2nd year $500k buyout or $3.5 mil contract option
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Post by scottscudder on Jan 25, 2024 12:34:35 GMT -5
Does anyone worry about the fall off from Diaz to the rest of the bullpen? Or do we have guys good enough to step up and fill in as closer if needed? Who is our closer if Diaz is injured or pitches like he did in the back half of last season?
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Post by The Duke on Jan 25, 2024 16:15:52 GMT -5
Does anyone worry about the fall off from Diaz to the rest of the bullpen? Or do we have guys good enough to step up and fill in as closer if needed? Who is our closer if Diaz is injured or pitches like he did in the back half of last season? Looking at the game logs, he had 3 bad games in September where he gave up 33% of the runs that he gave up the entire season in those 3 games, and two of those even were unearned. Reviewing K/9 last year and games finished, it looks like Fernando Cruz would probably be next in line. 13.4 K/9, he finished 15 games, and while his ERA was 4.91, his FIP was 2.83, so regressing to the mean should drop that some. If we're asking another guy to close, roll the dice with the guy who misses bats. Lucas Sims was another guy who missed some bats, but had more trouble with walks. |
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Post by scottscudder on Jan 26, 2024 6:58:18 GMT -5
Does anyone worry about the fall off from Diaz to the rest of the bullpen? Or do we have guys good enough to step up and fill in as closer if needed? Who is our closer if Diaz is injured or pitches like he did in the back half of last season? Looking at the game logs, he had 3 bad games in September where he gave up 33% of the runs that he gave up the entire season in those 3 games, and two of those even were unearned. Reviewing K/9 last year and games finished, it looks like Fernando Cruz would probably be next in line. 13.4 K/9, he finished 15 games, and while his ERA was 4.91, his FIP was 2.83, so regressing to the mean should drop that some. If we're asking another guy to close, roll the dice with the guy who misses bats. Lucas Sims was another guy who missed some bats, but had more trouble with walks. I think there was more of a fall off than just a few games in September. Here is the OPS+ against Diaz by month. April/March: -4 May: 29 June: 60 July: 80 August: 106 September: 117 In August, he became a below average pitcher, which is not good enough for a closer. In watching him, it became obvious that he was not the shutdown guy that he was earlier in the season. Too many guys on base. Regardless of his performance, injury is always a concern and someone may need to step up at some point. I was thinking Sims would be the likely fill in, but his walks are scary. I imagine that perhaps Chase Petty is a future back end of the bullpen guy, but not sure he'll be ready this year. I just really hate the idea of the offense putting the team in a position to win and then blowing the save. Super disappointing when that happens. Would like the back end of the pen to be a little more 1990 nasty than it appears. |
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Post by The Duke on Jan 26, 2024 9:11:45 GMT -5
I mean, we'd all like to have one of the best bullpens in baseball over the past 40 years, but that's not very realistic on a year-to-year basis. What that chart shows me is a pitcher with either a nagging injury or was
wearing down. 67 IP isn't unreasonable, so more likely the former that he just worked through. I think most teams would be pretty happy with a cheap 26 year old closer who has a career 2.47 ERA and 11.6 K/9 ratio.
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