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Post by The Duke on May 16, 2008 14:31:45 GMT -5
www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2008/266117.htmlHere is the Reds pick and explanation: Hard to argue with Crow, except for that he is another RHP, which the Reds have in bunches, but they have matusz going #4 to the Orioles. Notables that I am interested in for the Reds: 1. Rays - Tim Beckham, SS 8. White Sox - Gordon Beckham, SS 11. Rangers - Eric Hosmer, 1B 14. Twins - Christian Freidrich, LHP 15. Dodgers - Aaron Hicks, CF/RHP 20. Mariners - Tim Melville, RHP Casey Kelly goes 19 to the Cubs in this draft, and I would be pretty pissed if the Reds took him as he is definitely not a top 10 talent.
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Post by starpower25 on May 16, 2008 17:22:15 GMT -5
People did not feel Bruce was either but he proved them wrong. he was considered a huge reach. Kelly is a talented kid I would not have a big issue with it BUT IMO he is just not the best guy on the board plain and simple. That being said we will have to wait and see
I really like Crow alot.
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Post by mrpotamus on May 16, 2008 18:32:25 GMT -5
For you Crow lovers: www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/28/aaroncrowmechanalysis/I am not a big fan of taking a RHP with funky mechanics. If we can't get Matusz, I really wouldn't mind seeing Friedrich. He may not have a very high ceiling, but he appears to be a sure bet to be a very good 3/4 starter, and he could move quickly. We really don't need another #1 guy. Getting a left-handed innings eater that can post a solid 3.5 ERA would be the best-case scenario for this team. |
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Post by The Duke on May 16, 2008 19:38:30 GMT -5
For you Crow lovers: www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/28/aaroncrowmechanalysis/I am not a big fan of taking a RHP with funky mechanics. If we can't get Matusz, I really wouldn't mind seeing Friedrich. He may not have a very high ceiling, but he appears to be a sure bet to be a very good 3/4 starter, and he could move quickly. We really don't need another #1 guy. Getting a left-handed innings eater that can post a solid 3.5 ERA would be the best-case scenario for this team. Thats what I like abou Friedrich, and they say his curveball is already an MLB plus pitch with plus plus potential. |
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Post by oldschoolstyle on May 16, 2008 20:28:42 GMT -5
I still want Hicks.
Worst case senerio he's Michael Bourn.
Best case scenerio he's Josh Hamilton with less power and more speed.
Funky case scenerio he's Joe Nathan and fails as a hitter and becomes a dominant relief pitcher haha.
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Post by The Duke on May 16, 2008 20:49:02 GMT -5
I'd be more than happy with Hicks. A Stubbs, Hicks, Bruce outfield would be the best defensive outfield bar none, maybe one of the best in a long long time.
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Post by oldschoolstyle on May 16, 2008 20:54:04 GMT -5
Now how fast is he? I've heard Reyes, Bourn, Pierre fast. Is that true Duke? Range like that with what I assume is a cannon of an arm (throws 95 mph) would make Stubbs (who was supposed to be a GG CF) a RF. That would be sick. Also, when was the last time we had a guy with 60 SB potential?
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Post by The Duke on May 16, 2008 21:03:46 GMT -5
I've heard reports online thrown around by scouts who think he could post a 100 SB season or two if he got on base enough (a .370-.380 clip). He is ridiculously fast.
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Post by oldschoolstyle on May 16, 2008 21:08:25 GMT -5
Exactly and if he doesn't get on base at a high clip he is Michael Bourn, worst case. That is why I am so high on him. I'm ok with drafting Michael Bourn with the 7th overall pick. Hicks is as close to a lock to the bigs as I can see. That and think about a guy good enough defensively to move Stubbs to RF. It makes you tingle a little bit.
Plus, if he flops big time, you have a do-over with him because you can turn him into a pitcher to see what happens all over again.
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Post by mrpotamus on May 17, 2008 8:21:34 GMT -5
With the way this team is going, I would rather get a college player that could contribute in two or three years. In that sense, Gordon Beckham would not bother me at all. We need a shortstop, as nobody we have in the minors with a bat has the glove to stick there. As much as I like Kepp, something tells me that in two or three years, he will not be able to handle the position. He is already 28 and was never considered to have the range to be a SS.
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Post by The Duke on May 17, 2008 11:02:41 GMT -5
Valaika has stuck at SS through AA and his defense has improverd each of the past two years, so I wouldn't be so quick to discount him at that position. And with his bat, it would be good offesnse
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Post by mrpotamus on May 17, 2008 12:51:35 GMT -5
That's true. My only fear with Valaika is that it has taken him a while to adjust to each new level. He struggled when he was moved to Sarasota last season, and he is struggling mightily in Chattanooga now. He will figure it out eventually, but how long is it going to take him to make it to the show?
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Post by The Duke on May 17, 2008 13:47:17 GMT -5
I think Valaika will start next year in AAA and will probably be in the bigs to stay in 2010.
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Post by Lark11 on May 17, 2008 17:25:43 GMT -5
For you Crow lovers: www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/28/aaroncrowmechanalysis/I am not a big fan of taking a RHP with funky mechanics. If we can't get Matusz, I really wouldn't mind seeing Friedrich. He may not have a very high ceiling, but he appears to be a sure bet to be a very good 3/4 starter, and he could move quickly. We really don't need another #1 guy. Getting a left-handed innings eater that can post a solid 3.5 ERA would be the best-case scenario for this team. You'd better get something better than a #3/4 starter with the 7th overall pick in the draft. |
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Post by oldschoolstyle on May 17, 2008 21:01:57 GMT -5
For you Crow lovers: www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/28/aaroncrowmechanalysis/I am not a big fan of taking a RHP with funky mechanics. If we can't get Matusz, I really wouldn't mind seeing Friedrich. He may not have a very high ceiling, but he appears to be a sure bet to be a very good 3/4 starter, and he could move quickly. We really don't need another #1 guy. Getting a left-handed innings eater that can post a solid 3.5 ERA would be the best-case scenario for this team. You'd better get something better than a #3/4 starter with the 7th overall pick in the draft. I couldn't disagree more. To many #1 overall picks turn out to be busts for me to say that the #7 not being better then a 3/4 starter is a bad pick. Right now Homer Bailey doesn't look like a 3/4 starter. I'm not sure where we picked him exactly. My point is, the MLB draft is such a non-exact science that if we draft anyone who helps our MLB team at some point I consider it a success. Now, drafting All-Stars over just starters is what you hope for, but not always the way it goes. |
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