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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 22, 2008 16:10:32 GMT -5
Keep it civil, lol.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 22, 2008 16:13:34 GMT -5
Still as of yet undecided between Obama and McCain. No chance in hell I am voting for Hillary.
She has blatantly lied to the public about trivial stuff, and the White House cook from Bill's presidency has as much experience in the White House as she does, so stop throwing that more experienced crap around. She has been a Seneator just as long as Obama I think, and Obama technically has a much longer record of public service.
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 22, 2008 16:18:18 GMT -5
As far as the issues go, I think Obama and Clinton are nearly indistinguishable, so it really comes down to character, and that's a contest I think Obama wins easily. However, I'm considerably more conservative than that, so McCain has my vote locked up by default.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 22, 2008 20:19:45 GMT -5
I'm usually a slight republican lean but i'm open to whom I think is the best candidate. I couldn't vote yet, but I was all about Clinton over Dole. I voted for Bush last time, but it really comes down to who I think will be a better leader and where they stand on the issues.
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Post by GMBurchfield on Apr 22, 2008 21:21:53 GMT -5
I simply vote for who I feel is best.
On my list it was
Rudy G ( Giuliani ) Obama Edwards McCain Romney
so as of now Obama gets my vote
No way I vote Clinton
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Post by The Duke on Apr 23, 2008 5:14:51 GMT -5
I think its funny how Hillrod talks about how she can beat McCain and has the better chance to win, when almost every undecided nonpartisan voter I run into says they prefer both Obama and McCain over Hillary. She is more popular with the traditional democratic base that will vote democrat even if Stalin was their party's candidate, but Obama has much more appeal to the middle, where elections are won and lost.
I was a Rudy G fan as well. I saw him speak in Cincy in 2005, and he was a great public speaker. Never cared much for Edwards or Romney.
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 23, 2008 23:25:40 GMT -5
Sounds to me like you guys are more of personality people than issues people then. Otherwise I don't see the pattern in the list with Rudy then Obama then Edwards then McCain... (Very liberal consevative, liberal, liberal, then fairly liberal conservative)
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Post by The Duke on Apr 24, 2008 5:12:05 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, the issues play a large part, but the candidate themselves has to play an equally large part. The closer a candidate is to the middle ground on issues typically is the best from what I have seen in the past. You get to far left or right and it never works out well.
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 25, 2008 0:16:45 GMT -5
As far as Guiliani is concerned, it seems to me that he would be a good choice for McCain to grab as the vice, to lure some of the more liberal, borderline Republicans. A big name like that would really help solidify the McCain ticket.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 25, 2008 5:51:43 GMT -5
As far as Guiliani is concerned, it seems to me that he would be a good choice for McCain to grab as the vice, to lure some of the more liberal, borderline Republicans. A big name like that would really help solidify the McCain ticket. That would be a strong ticket. Haven't heard much about who might be the Democratic VP candidate, but after all th animosity between Obama and Hillary I doubt either one takes the other as their candidate at this point. Since i'm fairly confident that Obama will outlast Clinton, he won't take her as she has run a fairly dirty campaign against him.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 25, 2008 13:01:41 GMT -5
ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hLPqTxd4Fe7e5EymHU-kTUgweRDQD908VRSG2Obama is talking tough about standing up to oil companies. Think there is any truth behind it or just campaign politicing? Some strong words right there and I can't help but agree with what he is saying. He has some credibility to me, wheras I don't think I can believe a word that Hillary says for as many lies as she has been caught in just in this campaign.
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 26, 2008 23:22:02 GMT -5
I have to agree, and it does seem that Obama will outlast Clinton, but I think she did very well in Pennsylvania and the last primary, so apparently she is gaining some of her momentum back. All they've really succeeded in doing is splitting the party though, which has historically not worked out well for the party being split.
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Post by Lark11 on Apr 27, 2008 16:01:30 GMT -5
I'm curious to know what McCain supporters think about his temper. Is that a cause for concern or an overblown news story?
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Post by powerofcincy on Apr 27, 2008 23:00:46 GMT -5
I don't really like McCain. He's bland, unintersting, and more liberal than I like. I'm a supporter by default, so yes, I think the temper thing is an issue. We don't want a hot head in the Oval Office. But I'm sure he is old enough that he has it well in check. That's another issue I have, his age. Along with questionable personal conduct in his history. There's a lot I dislike about him, but I am still compelled to vote for him as the lesser of two evils. ;D Hope not to dissuade anyone from voting for him...I still believe he is still a better choice than either Democrat.
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Post by The Duke on Apr 28, 2008 5:08:05 GMT -5
Just an overblown news story to me. Show me the person who says they never get mad and i'll show you a liar. And if you don't know what a liar looks like, i'll just show you Hillary. It's funny that she is trying to hold onto whatever she can even though there is essentially 0 chance of her overtaking Obama in either the popular vote or delegate count. Hopefully, Obama can win both Indiana and N.C. so she can just go away.
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