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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 24, 2015 10:10:03 GMT -5
So far the list stands at 13 of 18 reporting in
Sabo's Studs Lark's Legends Mean Machine London Majors 67 Nova Troy Tylos D-Town Dragoons Bob Roberts Snappers Mean Machine Dukes of Crunch Dawg Catchers Dusty's Toothpick
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Post by vtreds22 on Jan 25, 2015 16:50:32 GMT -5
Never notched this thread. The Taveras Effect will be back. I can't even remember who is on my team right now thought. I suppose I should look into that.
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Post by vtreds22 on Jan 25, 2015 17:10:03 GMT -5
With the two added N/A spots, I believe we should explore expanding our keepers list by 1-2 players. The N/A slots were added to give owners a chance to not only compete and try to win in the short term, but also giving them a chance to build for the future. If the keeper list stands at 17, owners are forced to make a decision to keep young minor leaguers and continue building for the future, or keep veterans who can contribute now while sacrificing part the future.
I don't see the point in adding two N/A slots if the keeper lists don't expand as well. That seems pretty counter-intuitive. What's the point in having the N/A slots if we just have to either dump the minor leaguers back into the draft pool or sacrifice a quality veteran(s) who can contribute immediately?
I won't throw a fit either way, but I just fail to see the point of N/A slots if owners' aren't given a real chance to keep their young players while trying to remain competitive.
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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 25, 2015 17:25:42 GMT -5
The N/A slots were only added to benefit the teams throughout the season, so you could draft a minor or keep one and then place them on the NA slot through out the year and not take up an actual roster spot.
It was not intended to be used to keep more players though out the year. we currently already keep 340 players each year from the talent pool. when the likes of a mike leake or nick swisher are some of the top pics for the 1st round of the draft that just shows how the talent level is depleted at draft time. If we allow 2 more keepers being minor leaguers, now we run the risk of the incoming talent pool even being low.
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Post by vtreds22 on Jan 25, 2015 18:06:37 GMT -5
The N/A slots were only added to benefit the teams throughout the season, so you could draft a minor or keep one and then place them on the NA slot through out the year and not take up an actual roster spot. It was not intended to be used to keep more players though out the year. we currently already keep 340 players each year from the talent pool. when the likes of a mike leake or nick swisher are some of the top pics for the 1st round of the draft that just shows how the talent level is depleted at draft time. If we allow 2 more keepers being minor leaguers, now we run the risk of the incoming talent pool even being low. They were only added to benefit teams throughout the season? That makes no sense to me. I don't see the purpose of having two N/A slots if you know you're just going to A) dump them back into the draft pool in the next season or B) part ways with a quality veteran just to keep the young guys you have. Prior to the N/A slots, owners essentially had to make a choice whether or not to attempt to win now or build for the future. Adding two N/A slots allowed owners to, to an extent, do both. But what is the point of even utilizing the N/A slots if you're just going to dump them back into the pool? Like I said, I'm cool either way. Not a big deal. I just don't see the point of the N/A slots if you're going to have to make a choice whether or not to keep the guys you had stashed all season. We essentially added the rosters by two when we added the N/A slots, but we're not going to have any sort of increase in keepers as well? Again, that seems counter-intuitive to me. I'm curious to hear other owner's thoughts on this one. Maybe it's just me, but maybe it's not.
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Post by Lark11 on Jan 25, 2015 18:31:52 GMT -5
The N/A slots were only added to benefit the teams throughout the season, so you could draft a minor or keep one and then place them on the NA slot through out the year and not take up an actual roster spot. It was not intended to be used to keep more players though out the year. we currently already keep 340 players each year from the talent pool. when the likes of a mike leake or nick swisher are some of the top pics for the 1st round of the draft that just shows how the talent level is depleted at draft time. If we allow 2 more keepers being minor leaguers, now we run the risk of the incoming talent pool even being low. They were only added to benefit teams throughout the season? That makes no sense to me. I don't see the purpose of having two N/A slots if you know you're just going to A) dump them back into the draft pool in the next season or B) part ways with a quality veteran just to keep the young guys you have. Prior to the N/A slots, owners essentially had to make a choice whether or not to attempt to win now or build for the future. Adding two N/A slots allowed owners to, to an extent, do both. But what is the point of even utilizing the N/A slots if you're just going to dump them back into the pool? Like I said, I'm cool either way. Not a big deal. I just don't see the point of the N/A slots if you're going to have to make a choice whether or not to keep the guys you had stashed all season. We essentially added the rosters by two when we added the N/A slots, but we're not going to have any sort of increase in keepers as well? Again, that seems counter-intuitive to me. I'm curious to hear other owner's thoughts on this one. Maybe it's just me, but maybe it's not. The point is to keep the 17 best players from off of your roster. The rest go back into the draft pool. You can define "best" any way you see fit, pitching or hitting, young or old, whatever. That's up to you. Just because we added two NA slots during the year doesn't mean we need to increase the keeper limit. If an NA prospect doesn't have more value than 17 of your veteran players, then you probably don't want to keep him.
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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 25, 2015 18:42:27 GMT -5
So far the list stands at 14 of 18 reporting in
Sabo's Studs Lark's Legends Mean Machine London Majors 67 Nova Troy Tylos D-Town Dragoons Bob Roberts Snappers Mean Machine Dukes of Crunch Dawg Catchers Dusty's Toothpick The Taveras Effect
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Post by vtreds22 on Jan 25, 2015 19:23:29 GMT -5
They were only added to benefit teams throughout the season? That makes no sense to me. I don't see the purpose of having two N/A slots if you know you're just going to A) dump them back into the draft pool in the next season or B) part ways with a quality veteran just to keep the young guys you have. Prior to the N/A slots, owners essentially had to make a choice whether or not to attempt to win now or build for the future. Adding two N/A slots allowed owners to, to an extent, do both. But what is the point of even utilizing the N/A slots if you're just going to dump them back into the pool? Like I said, I'm cool either way. Not a big deal. I just don't see the point of the N/A slots if you're going to have to make a choice whether or not to keep the guys you had stashed all season. We essentially added the rosters by two when we added the N/A slots, but we're not going to have any sort of increase in keepers as well? Again, that seems counter-intuitive to me. I'm curious to hear other owner's thoughts on this one. Maybe it's just me, but maybe it's not. The point is to keep the 17 best players from off of your roster. The rest go back into the draft pool. You can define "best" any way you see fit, pitching or hitting, young or old, whatever. That's up to you. Just because we added two NA slots during the year doesn't mean we need to increase the keeper limit. If an NA prospect doesn't have more value than 17 of your veteran players, then you probably don't want to keep him. That's fine. I just don't see the purpose of the two N/A slots. It gives you two extra bench slots to add active players, which is fine I guess, but I don't see the point in the two slots without adding to the keeper list. I bolded the "17 of your veteran players" part for a reason. It's hard to stash top minor league talent while keeping enough veteran talent to seriously compete for a championship with only 17 spots. I get the whole "play for now or play for the future" thing, but I thought adding two extra N/A slots would help alleviate this issue. Since the two roster spots don't carry over, I don't see the purpose of it. But it's not a big deal. If I'm the only one who feels this way then so be it.
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Post by Lark11 on Jan 25, 2015 21:18:36 GMT -5
The point is to keep the 17 best players from off of your roster. The rest go back into the draft pool. You can define "best" any way you see fit, pitching or hitting, young or old, whatever. That's up to you. Just because we added two NA slots during the year doesn't mean we need to increase the keeper limit. If an NA prospect doesn't have more value than 17 of your veteran players, then you probably don't want to keep him. That's fine. I just don't see the purpose of the two N/A slots. It gives you two extra bench slots to add active players, which is fine I guess, but I don't see the point in the two slots without adding to the keeper list. I bolded the "17 of your veteran players" part for a reason. It's hard to stash top minor league talent while keeping enough veteran talent to seriously compete for a championship with only 17 spots. I get the whole "play for now or play for the future" thing, but I thought adding two extra N/A slots would help alleviate this issue. Since the two roster spots don't carry over, I don't see the purpose of it. But it's not a big deal. If I'm the only one who feels this way then so be it. The purpose of it is in-season roster flexibility, which is worth more than you might think. It allows you an entire season of control over a prospect to evaluate his development and determine whether he's keeper worthy. Instead of being forced to cut that prospect in order to comply with the rules requiring all teams to have an active roster, you get to shift him to an NA slot and determine at the end of the season whether he's deserving of one of the coveted 17 keeper slots. From my experience, it really doesn't matter where the keeper line is drawn, there will always be difficult choices and cuts you don't want to make. Shifting the line one way or the other doesn't eliminate the number of difficult choices, it just changes which players are subject to that decision. If we add two more slots, then you'll just be wringing your hands over which players to keep with those 18th and 19th slots.
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Post by greensnapper on Jan 26, 2015 14:12:02 GMT -5
The N/A slots were only added to benefit the teams throughout the season, so you could draft a minor or keep one and then place them on the NA slot through out the year and not take up an actual roster spot. It was not intended to be used to keep more players though out the year. we currently already keep 340 players each year from the talent pool. when the likes of a mike leake or nick swisher are some of the top pics for the 1st round of the draft that just shows how the talent level is depleted at draft time. If we allow 2 more keepers being minor leaguers, now we run the risk of the incoming talent pool even being low. Actually, as it stands right now, even Leake will not be available in the 1st round as he's on Taveras' keepers list.
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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 26, 2015 15:43:36 GMT -5
The N/A slots were only added to benefit the teams throughout the season, so you could draft a minor or keep one and then place them on the NA slot through out the year and not take up an actual roster spot. It was not intended to be used to keep more players though out the year. we currently already keep 340 players each year from the talent pool. when the likes of a mike leake or nick swisher are some of the top pics for the 1st round of the draft that just shows how the talent level is depleted at draft time. If we allow 2 more keepers being minor leaguers, now we run the risk of the incoming talent pool even being low. Actually, as it stands right now, even Leake will not be available in the 1st round as he's on Taveras' keepers list. lol
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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 29, 2015 18:43:04 GMT -5
OK everyone Yahoo is set to open the 2015 season tomorrow. We currently have 14 of the 18 teams checking in, our cutoff date before we find new owners will be Feb 6th. (unless for some reason yahoo does not open tomorrow as advertised on their page) After that date Lark and I will find new owners for the vacant teams. And i am sure we will fill those slots up pretty fast. I will also post this on the Yahoo group page.
We are still missing the following teams from reporting in
Americas Team The Dudes Abiders GABB Sandbox Drews Dawgs
If you know how to contact any of them please do so. that way we can get this rolling and set a date for the draft. which of course takes about a month to do lol.
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Post by Lark11 on Jan 29, 2015 20:02:13 GMT -5
OK everyone Yahoo is set to open the 2015 season tomorrow. We currently have 14 of the 18 teams checking in, our cutoff date before we find new owners will be Feb 6th. (unless for some reason yahoo does not open tomorrow as advertised on their page) After that date Lark and I will find new owners for the vacant teams. And i am sure we will fill those slots up pretty fast. I will also post this on the Yahoo group page. We are still missing the following teams from reporting in Americas Team The Dudes Abiders GABB Sandbox Drews Dawgs If you know how to contact any of them please do so. that way we can get this rolling and set a date for the draft. which of course takes about a month to do lol. GABB just sent me a YIM telling me that GABB Sandbox is in for this season.
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Post by sabo3b17 on Jan 29, 2015 20:22:57 GMT -5
Awesome we now have 15 of 18 teams
So far the list stands at 15 of 18 reporting in
Sabo's Studs Lark's Legends Mean Machine London Majors 67 Nova Troy Tylos D-Town Dragoons Bob Roberts Snappers Mean Machine Dukes of Crunch Dawg Catchers Dusty's Toothpick The Taveras Effect GABB Sandbox
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Post by sabo3b17 on Feb 2, 2015 15:25:23 GMT -5
Hey guys if anyone knows how to contact the following teams please try to do so. They have been sent 2 reminders so far and will get a third by the end of the week. They slots will be filled by the beginning of next week. We currently have two people on the waiting list and potentially more. so hopefully for everyone that keeps asking we will get the non responsive teams filled by the 9th. set a keeper date a week after then work on a draft start time soon after that. Hang in there we are trying to keep things rolling a lot faster this year then in years past.
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