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Post by Lark11 on Jul 15, 2014 23:48:17 GMT -5
Star Wars Schedule: Fall 2014: Rebels (animated - the years between Episode III and IV) 2015: Episode VII 2016: Boba Fett spinoff 2017: Episode VIII 2018: Solo spinoff 2019: Episode IX 2020: Red Five spinoff Good thing they aren't going to oversaturate the market.....
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Post by kinsm on Jul 15, 2014 23:57:06 GMT -5
No such thing, I think you underestimate the "geekdom" of star wars fans.
Hell, Star Wars: Clone Wars (between Episodes II and III) just finished a couple of months ago. That's a multiple Emmy-award winning animated series that's been on for six years.
*Edit: Keep in mind Disney bought LucasFilm for 4 billion $, a movie a year is more than justifiable with that cost.
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Post by schellis on Jul 16, 2014 10:42:27 GMT -5
Look at the Marvel universe, they are pumping out two or three movies a year and the market is anything but saturated. Star Wars has a similar following, if the movies are quality they'll do just fine. If they are CGI heavy weak acting/plot movies people will be disappointed.
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Post by Lark11 on Jul 16, 2014 10:58:01 GMT -5
Look at the Marvel universe, they are pumping out two or three movies a year and the market is anything but saturated. Star Wars has a similar following, if the movies are quality they'll do just fine. If they are CGI heavy weak acting/plot movies people will be disappointed. Eh, I would disagree. I used to be excited to see the new super hero movies and, frankly, would see all of them. Now, I can't even keep up with them. Exactly how many X-Men movies have there been? I would say the market IS oversaturated and it's only going to get worse, as DC is going to crank out the Justice League at some point. But, back to Star Wars, I would argue the scarcity of the original films is part of what makes them special. They were events. People would line up way in advance to get into the first few screenings. Camp out. It was event entertainment. Now, cranking out a new film every year? Is it going to be the same? Is the product going to be better? Or, just more profitable?
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Post by kinsm on Jul 16, 2014 17:47:11 GMT -5
Yes, it'll be the same. When Lucas wrote the plots back in the 70's he originally intended on there being 3 trilogies.
There is an entirely new generation in need of some star wars. Having the original 3 actors in it will draw in those fans from the original trilogy who weren't die hard fans.
People will still camp out by the butt-load.
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Post by psuhistory on Jul 16, 2014 19:45:05 GMT -5
The spice must flow...
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Post by redsfanman on Jul 17, 2014 10:20:27 GMT -5
In my opinion 'oversaturation' is a pretty funny concern amongst a group of guys who are united by an interest in watching (and discussing) 162 games of baseball...
I wasn't even born yet when Return of the Jedi came out, but I saw the the special editions (IV-VI) in theaters, and I-III when they were new. I'll buy a ticket to see any and every Star Wars movie in theater. With Lego Star Wars, Clone Wars, and the new Star Wars Rebels the franchise has several new ways to introduce the franchise to a new generation of viewers.
A more comparable franchise than superheroes - Star Trek - has successfully grown and split off in multiple directions (TV to movies) and is still going pretty strong, with the large and loyal fan base. 'Scarcity' isn't a term I would really attribute to Star Wars, despite their being 3... then 6... movies there have been tons of books written for really dedicated fans. It's there for people that want it. Star Wars is only scarce on a screen. Those books, and additional characters created, developed, or given back-stories (like Boba Fett, Wedge Antilles, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Captain Pellaeon, Mara Jade, Galen Marek/Starkiller and others) have only increased interest in the movies... and many of them might be able to drive successful stand-alone movies (if Disney chooses to go that way...) despite negligible significance or non-existance in the original movies (with good acting/casting, writing, and directing). I know this is a bit of a ramble, but I think the expanded universe has drastically driven up the value of said universe, and created many more options of directions for the franchise to take than the original 3 movies.
There have been tons of super hero movies in recent years. Many I've seen, some I haven't. Some I've liked, others I've disliked (Christian Bale's Batman... ugh). Thor (ugh). The Amazing Spiderman (ugh). Captain America (ugh). Man of Steel (ugh). X-Men First Class (horrendous). Many people still saw and enjoyed those movies, even if I didn't. I don't think those movies' existences makes the ones I like (X-Men movies with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen, Spiderman 1-3, older Batman, Iron Man, Avengers, and others) any worse. Stand-alone Star Wars movies are risky, like any superhero movie, but if well done they can be great successes with a built in fan base.
Oh well, ramble complete.
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Post by kinsm on Nov 7, 2014 0:33:18 GMT -5
www.starwars.com/films/star-wars-episode-viithe new Star Wars film has a name. Star Wars: The Force Awakens is the official title of J.J. Abrams’ space saga The title offers the first clue, however vague, about what the film’s plot might be. Return of the Jedi left off with the Empire defeated, the Emperor dead, and Darth Vader finally liberated from evil in his afterlife. Obviously, the new movie isn’t going to be a little character study about people living in a time of peace, so one must assume that when they say The Force awakens, the dark side is springing out of bed first.
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Post by psuhistory on Nov 7, 2014 8:54:58 GMT -5
If it wakes up, does that mean it has a life span? If not, isn't it more like being turned on, baby?
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Post by redsfanman on Nov 7, 2014 15:12:11 GMT -5
Or Luke has gone into hiding, and has been awoken by a disturbance in the force. When gone was Yoda, the last of the Jedi Luke was - that seems lonely. I like the name (although most clearly don't, from all the articles I've read). It's an appropriate name for a franchise that is being awoken from a one to three decade slumber, depending on whether or not you consider the prequels to be waking up, or merely investigating the past.
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Post by redsfanman on Mar 12, 2015 14:02:14 GMT -5
Disney released information about Star Wars movies today.
Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens, as we've known for months, is still being released on December 18, 2015 (despite some rumors that spoilers may get it moved up to the summer). A new trailer is expected to premier with the film Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, so only a few more months.
The first spinoff movie will be called 'Rogue One' and is scheduled to open December 16, 2016. It will star Felicity Jones, be directed by Gareth Edwards, and is based on a script by Chris Weitz. Filming starts this summer.
Star Wars VIII, the title of which has not yet been announced, now has a release date of May 26, 2017, timed to coincide with the 40th anniversary of A New Hope (in case anyone wonders why it isn't being released in December). It will be directed by Rian Johnson.
Most of the rumors seem to focus around a Boba Fett spinoff and a Han Solo origins story, although 'Rogue One' seems to suggest that the first movie is about Rogue Squadron. But it's plenty vague that it could still closely incorporate Boba Fett and bounty hunters, who are also rogues.
Disney also announced the other day that ~20 new (Disney approved) Star Wars books will be released before The Force Awakens... what a waste of paper.
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Post by psuhistory on Mar 12, 2015 16:28:08 GMT -5
Disney also announced the other day that ~20 new (Disney approved) Star Wars books will be released before The Force Awakens... what a waste of paper. Did they get anyone interesting to write them, or is the marketing department going to do it?
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Post by redsfanman on Mar 12, 2015 16:48:26 GMT -5
Disney also announced the other day that ~20 new (Disney approved) Star Wars books will be released before The Force Awakens... what a waste of paper. Did they get anyone interesting to write them, or is the marketing department going to do it? www.cnet.com/news/new-star-wars-books-coming-to-herald-in-the-release-of-the-force-awakens/ (to choose one random article) I read a bunch of Star Wars books when I was a teenager, at which point I determined that they all either sucked or were written by Timothy Zahn. And Timothy Zahn isn't one of the writers listed. They're apparently doing books for teenagers, adults, comicbooks, a whole variety of stuff... that doesn't seem to necessarily mesh well. One article mentioned a stickerbook, which isn't exactly high quality literature. Some of the names are 'award-winning young adult adult author' Cecil Castellucci, Jason Fry, 'comic book writer' Greg Rucka, and Claudia Gray. I've never heard of any of them. With these new books and movies they're completely rejecting the established Star Wars expanded universe, which is a very controversial decision, and it seems like they're bringing in totally new (book)writers to the franchise as a result. Rather than this being some listing of the best-of-the-best, most accomplished, and most beloved expanded universe writers getting rewarded with contracts by Disney. Another article stressed that one book will focus Star Wars' first gay character, a lesbian Sith or something. One must hope that's just PART of the plot of that book... although being sponsored by Disney, who knows. In my opinion telling people to write some books to get fans excited for a December 2015 movie release movie release certainly doesn't seem like a formula for great literature... although one important but unknown (at least to me) factor is when these books were commissioned.... whether they were commissioned back in 2012 when Disney acquired Lucasfilm, or if this week's announcement suggests that they were just recently commissioned with short deadlines. As they're specifically supposed to fill in the 30 year gap and fit in with the new movie, one must assume they were commissioned in January 2014 or later (perhaps MUCH later), following approval of the new script. To answer your questions, to the best of my ability: Did they get anyone interesting to write them? No. Is the marketing department going to do it? Yes. Unspoken question, do they seem likely to be worth reading? HELLLLLLLLL no.
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Post by kinsm on Mar 12, 2015 18:00:43 GMT -5
Star Wars Rebels (animated series) has already been picked up for a 2nd season (just completed the 1st)...with twice as many episodes as the first.
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Post by psuhistory on Mar 12, 2015 18:18:50 GMT -5
Did they get anyone interesting to write them, or is the marketing department going to do it? Some of the names are 'award-winning young adult adult author' Cecil Castellucci, Jason Fry, 'comic book writer' Greg Rucka, and Claudia Gray. I've never heard of any of them. K.W. Jeter wrote several Star Wars novels; he's a good writer: Dr. Adder; Farewell Horizontal; The Night Man; all good science fiction titles (though I haven't read any of his Star Wars books). Greg Rucka's contributions might be worth a look, he writes more than comic books...
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